Hornets decline Bouknight's fourth-year option | Page 3 | The Boneyard

Hornets decline Bouknight's fourth-year option

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Dec 8, 2015
Messages
12,681
Reaction Score
96,342
Remember what he wore the night he was back at Gampel? Black hoody, gold bling, tinted glasses. No UConn blue, no Husky logo, no indication he cared about his former school one bit. He had to know the TV cameras would be drawn to him and apparently he wanted that moment, or those moments, to be all about him and him alone. I had little affection for him prior to that night and zero afterward.

I was going to say the Hornets probably didn't cut Bouk because of dubious outfit choices. But tbh it's the Hornets, so I can't guarantee that.
 

willie99

Loving life & enjoying the ride, despite the bumps
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
6,965
Reaction Score
20,928
Something has to be a wake-up call. He has to hit rock bottom. He's still pretty young
 
Joined
Nov 14, 2016
Messages
506
Reaction Score
2,596
He seems unwilling to put in the effort and discipline needed to make it to the big show. He got paid, so If he's smart, he should be financially set for the rest of his life without worrying about work. So, it's not exactly a tragic ending. But it doesn't reflect well on DH or the school.
I'd be shocked if this was the case.
 

ConnHuskBask

Shut Em Down!
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
8,971
Reaction Score
32,883
It's crazy how people talk down switch up on you when your at your lowest. I said it before that je should of stayed an extra year or 2 but some of you guys bashed me for saying that. Hopefully he gets another opportunity somewhere and the 41 point 11 3s in the G league is a start. I'm rooting for JB because most of the Boneyard gave up on him which he doesn't need.

That sounds like a toxic approach that perpetuates and enables bad behavior. Respect is earned, not given. He's had more than enough chances to grow up.
 
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
27,095
Reaction Score
66,522
He has made a lot of money and returned very little value. Now he either contributes or he is gone.
 

UConnSportsGuy

Addicted to all things UCONN!
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
2,044
Reaction Score
5,738
Hornets was the worst possible place for him. Maybe he should go to Utah.

Or ANYWHERE with solid veteran presence. Which actually seems to be an issue overall in today’s NBA.

Not likely to happen, but Miami would be perfect. A no-nonsense team on the floor to get his on-court focus right. And Caron Butler as a mentor for him on the coaching staff.

Doubt Miami would be interested, but that would be perfect for Bouk.

Although on second thought, maybe the Miami nightlife temptations wouldn't be ideal. :cool:
 
Joined
Nov 29, 2022
Messages
202
Reaction Score
536
That sounds like a toxic approach that perpetuates and enables bad behavior. Respect is earned, not given. He's had more than enough chances to grow up.
He's still young 22 years old is far from being mature. I know he'll be a better person people can change in 1 minute a day month. It's just taken him a little longer
 
Joined
Aug 5, 2017
Messages
3,434
Reaction Score
8,692
Those who follow me closely will know I have long been a Bouknight skeptic. His body language and maturity stuck out to me early as not only immature, but outright disinterested. His lack of attention to detail on the court and decision making often left me shaking my head. However, this isn't the victory lap I ever wanted to run.

They're cutting their losses because they didn't see any progress and it appears his attitude was his biggest problem.

The following quote points to the team's "historically" bad decisions in the 2021 draft:
"Before 2023 the Hornets had never turned down a 4th year team option for a lottery pick, after waiving Kai Jones in September they have now (essentially) done it twice. The curse of the first round of the 2021 draft will go down in Hornets folklore. The haunting continues to weigh down Charlotte's future with a lottery protected 1st round pick still owed from the Kai Jones trade."

Is it possible we only got him because of his attitude and other schools chose not to take a chance on him?
 
Joined
Aug 5, 2017
Messages
3,434
Reaction Score
8,692
He's not cut, he's getting paid this season. He's got to get his s*** together.
Looking at it positively, the team is paying him this year while he rehabs and saved itself a $7.1M salary for the option year while sending a big message.

So he does have a chance. Do the work in rehab, then do the right things once you're cleared to play and they or someone else might offer him a lesser contract with a short leash.

For that to happen though, he'll have to prove himself worthy and won't be able to cruise with a bad attitude.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2021
Messages
19,558
Reaction Score
38,539
Bouk needs to go to a place that fixes players. San Antonio might work. I don’t think he’s cut out for grown up stuff yet. That’s why Chief00 was right on Bouk. He just wasn’t ready. Unfortunately, saying Bouk wasn’t ready was unpopular because his draft position made going a no brainer financially. As feared, he should have stayed in college and grown TF up. What a waste.
Thanks, Chief00 took a lot of incoming fire on that position but I think it was the most likely path for James to have success. The reality is the NBA teams treat you like an adult (with both good and bad results) and James doesn’t have the support structure that Hurley provides.

The idea James is financially set for life, I wish to be true, but given the current trajectory of choices and surrounding posse, I would be skeptical about.

James is still a young dude and I have always said it is about the second contract. Hopefully, as others have said, he gets to a place where more structure will be provided, however the reality is it is on him now.

A team will invest more and have more patience in a high draft pick for a couple of years. Now he needs to do the grind and produce results wherever he goes or in Charlotte. He needs to get stronger and put himself in the position that he comes with energy every time his name is called.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 8, 2015
Messages
12,681
Reaction Score
96,342
Not likely to happen, but Miami would be perfect. A no-nonsense team on the floor to get his on-court focus right. And Caron Butler as a mentor for him on the coaching staff.

Doubt Miami would be interested, but that would be perfect for Bouk.

Although on second thought, maybe the Miami nightlife temptations wouldn't be ideal. :cool:

I was thinking rural Serbia to avoid the nightlife.
 
Joined
Apr 26, 2023
Messages
166
Reaction Score
778
I still loved that!
He embarrassed himself, the program, and the university. He had plenty of warnings throughout the game and his behavior just got worse and worse. The Athletic Dept is also partly to blame. When the referee kicked him out, which he had the right to do, The AD handler instead moved into the corner then lost track of him and he ended up in the student section. They should have quietly escorted him out of Gampel. I hope is permanently banned from Gampel.
 
Joined
Dec 8, 2015
Messages
12,681
Reaction Score
96,342
He embarrassed himself, the program, and the university. He had plenty of warnings throughout the game and his behavior just got worse and worse. The Athletic Dept is also partly to blame. When the referee kicked him out, which he had the right to do, The AD handler instead moved into the corner then lost track of him and he ended up in the student section. They should have quietly escorted him out of Gampel. I hope is permanently banned from Gampel.

I can't imagine how some of you guys walk through life with sticks so far up your ass end. Good grief. The university was not embarassed because an alumni decided to harangue the refs at a game.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 8, 2016
Messages
575
Reaction Score
1,390
His problems go deeper than that. He blew a great opportunity because, pure and simple, he's a knucklehead and very immature. He's someone who really needed a mentor to help guide him in the NBA. I do believe he has the physical gifts to succeed in the NBA but he needs to learn how to be a pro.
he should have stayed one more year at uconn
 
Joined
Aug 17, 2011
Messages
14,582
Reaction Score
80,681
I can't imagine how some of you guys walk through life with sticks so far up your ass end. Good grief. The university was not embarassed because an alumni decided to harangue the refs at a game.
FWIW he didn't get thrown out of Gampel for heckling the refs. He was standing on the court and the refs told him multiple times not to do that. Finally the ref just threw him out.

 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
9,608
Reaction Score
28,517
Remember what he wore the night he was back at Gampel? Black hoody, gold bling, tinted glasses. No UConn blue, no Husky logo, no indication he cared about his former school one bit. He had to know the TV cameras would be drawn to him and apparently he wanted that moment, or those moments, to be all about him and him alone. I had little affection for him prior to that night and zero afterward.
Bouk has his issues but based on this post apparently so do you, this is true weirdo stuff
 
Joined
Nov 23, 2011
Messages
1,655
Reaction Score
3,887
It seems like all the new guys in the last few years are high character guys with their priorities set. Expect that going forward. Maybe Bouk was a learning experience for Dan on what type of guy not go after.
 
Joined
Apr 26, 2023
Messages
166
Reaction Score
778
I can't imagine how some of you guys walk through life with sticks so far up your ass end. Good grief. The university was not embarassed because an alumni decided to harangue the refs at a game.
It wasn't just haranguing the refs. I was sitting about 40 feet behind that clown. He was walking onto the court during live action and repeatedly ignoring direction from the officials. He was being an entitled, juvenile, a-----hole that was actively disrupting the game. He was endangering the safety of everyone on the court. The refs nearly ran into him multiple times while running down the court because he was 10 -12 feet out onto the court. If it was anybody else, he would have gotten the boot within 5 minutes. Instead, an AD handler had to sit next to him and that didn't even work. Believe what you want but there was nothing to love about his actions. Do you really think the AD Dept didn't have any opinion on one of their former players, a lottery pick nonetheless, getting kicked out of a game by a referee?
 
Joined
May 21, 2017
Messages
1,721
Reaction Score
3,868
Those who follow me closely will know I have long been a Bouknight skeptic. His body language and maturity stuck out to me early as not only immature, but outright disinterested. His lack of attention to detail on the court and decision making often left me shaking my head. However, this isn't the victory lap I ever wanted to run.

Really good summary of what we all witnessed and shook our heads at while watching this absurd decline into the abyss.
 
Joined
Dec 8, 2015
Messages
12,681
Reaction Score
96,342
It wasn't just haranguing the refs. I was sitting about 40 feet behind that clown. He was walking onto the court during live action and repeatedly ignoring direction from the officials. He was being an entitled, juvenile, a-----hole that was actively disrupting the game. He was endangering the safety of everyone on the court. The refs nearly ran into him multiple times while running down the court because he was 10 -12 feet out onto the court. If it was anybody else, he would have gotten the boot within 5 minutes. Instead, an AD handler had to sit next to him and that didn't even work. Believe what you want but there was nothing to love about his actions. Do you really think the AD Dept didn't have any opinion on one of their former players, a lottery pick nonetheless, getting kicked out of a game by a referee?

Okay, he walked onto the court. Excuse me. My memory of a minor incident 2 years ago faded. My point still stands: you have yet to explain how Bouk embarrassed the team or the university itself. Because I never said what he did wasn't bad. You're just strawmanning like my ex now.

I can make your argument for you if you want. There's a decent point to be made, you just haven't managed to do it for whatever reason. Watch:

Bouk isn't just a normal fan getting kicked out of the game, a la @BigErnMcCracken . He was at that point probably a more recognizable face than anyone associated with the university other than Hurley. So when a person in that position is removed from floor seats by referees, it does have an embarrassing affect on the team and the university that a normal fan wouldn't have.

Would I agree? No. I think people can do stupid things all on their own. But that's just me.
 
Joined
Dec 8, 2015
Messages
12,681
Reaction Score
96,342
It seems like all the new guys in the last few years are high character guys with their priorities set. Expect that going forward. Maybe Bouk was a learning experience for Dan on what type of guy not go after.

I don't think it's predictable sometimes. He was sheltered at Macduffie for HS, and I never heard anything but good about him in AAU circles. Wasn't until the stolen car incident that we saw he was a head case. Then things obviously went way downhill in the league.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
48,818
Reaction Score
167,610
I don't think it's predictable sometimes. He was sheltered at Macduffie for HS, and I never heard anything but good about him in AAU circles. Wasn't until the stolen car incident that we saw he was a head case. Then things obviously went way downhill in the league.
That should've been his wakeup call. He stole the girls car, was drunk, crashed it, and then tried to drive away on the cop before running on the cop. No DUI, no stolen car charge because the girl hooked him up by changing her story. Sometimes a slap on the wrist isn't the best thing but as far as we know he didn't have other problems with the law until the NBA.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Online statistics

Members online
79
Guests online
2,063
Total visitors
2,142

Forum statistics

Threads
157,163
Messages
4,085,877
Members
9,982
Latest member
CJasmer


Top Bottom