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Good thing UConn is out of the AAC

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For the few people who still long for the AAC, you should read this about Houston. How would you like to be 24-4 with no Quad 1 wins because there aren't any available in your conference? I think the game at SMU would have been a Quad 1 win but they lost.

Btw, Palm has UConn as a 4 seed right now. Just keep winning!

How to judge Houston

Houston, a No. 6 seed, also had a big win on Sunday, beating SMU 75-61. The Cougars are an interesting case for the NCAA Tournament selection committee. As of this morning, they are 24-4 overall, but do not have any Quad 1 wins. Houston is 0-3 against that group, with losses to Wisconsin, Alabama and SMU, all away from home. Their only other loss came at home to Memphis.

Since I started collecting data in 1994, the highest seed a team without a Quad 1 win has received is a No. 8 seed. That last occurred for Wisconsin-Green Bay in 1996. The highest seed for a team winless against Q1 in more recent times is a 10 for Georgia in 2015.

I think we would all be shocked if Houston were seeded anywhere near that low, even if the Cougars do not end up with any Quad 1 wins, but also do not be surprised if they are not seeded as high as their metrics might suggest.

You might notice that I am using the term "quadrant" to describe seasons long before the term was introduced. In fact, a team's opponents have always been listed in four groups on the team sheets, or at least for as long as I have been tracking them. There was no need for a term like "quadrant" initially because the division of the groups was simple to explain. Quad 1 was games against teams ranked 1-50 in the RPI, Quad 2 was teams 51-100, Quad 3 was teams 101-200 and Quad 4 was teams ranked 201 and higher.

The term "quadrant" was introduced in 2018, when the NCAA decided to add a home and road element to deciding which games went into each quadrant. There were three RPI groupings in each quadrant, depending on whether a game was home, road or neutral. In 2019, the NET replaced the RPI as the metric of choice for the NCAA and NET ranking groups have defined the quadrants since.


 
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Yup. In the AAC, we'd probably still have around the same record, but the Q1 numbers would be awful and we'd probably have a NET in the 30s.
 
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Houston made the Final Four last year. No BE team advanced that far. If you win the NC nobody cares how many quad 1 wins you had. That is all.
We talking about this year, not last year. Last year was an anomaly too with Covid and such. I think Houston is a top 16 team but their lack of quality opponents and wins is hard to ignore. Also, it is likely possibility that the AAC is a one bid league this year.
 
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Houston made the Final Four last year. No BE team advanced that far. If you win the NC nobody cares how many quad 1 wins you had. That is all.
Houston, who played one single-digit seed in the 2021 NCAA Tournament - and was blown out. Houston wasn't in the same hemisphere as the national championship last season.
 
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If we were in the AAC our talent level would have dropped accordingly. We would be pining for a NET in the 30's.
If we were in the AAC, a small handful of absolute idiots on the boneyard dot com would be happy and precisely no one else
 
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Houston made the Final Four last year. No BE team advanced that far. If you win the NC nobody cares how many quad 1 wins you had. That is all.
True, but all year long Boneyarders would be bitching about how undervalued a 25 win UConn team would be and it would certainly make the road to the Final Four a decent bit more difficult. So there's that, too.
 
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Houston made the Final Four last year. No BE team advanced that far. If you win the NC nobody cares how many quad 1 wins you had. That is all.
Better for us since first day back BE.
 
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Not to mention with Houston leaving getting good wins are going to become even harder to come by in that league. So happy to be out
 
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Hard to judge until they are actually playing in the same conference (and it could end up being worse), but looking at the current NET rankings of the AAC 2.0, the only Q1 opportunities would be playing North Texas, Memphis, SMU, or UAB on the road.
 
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Houston made the Final Four last year. No BE team advanced that far. If you win the NC nobody cares how many quad 1 wins you had. That is all.
But they didn't win the NC last year, now did they? :)

The point of this is that you could be really good but if you play in a bad conference your seeding in the NCAA Tournament isn't going to be as high as maybe it should. Which in theory makes your path to a NC much harder than it could have been. Isn't that the whole point of the seedings?
 
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With Houston, UCF and Cinci leaving, we'd essentially be in Conference USA going forward. Leaving was even better than any of us ever imagined
 

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Hard to judge until they are actually playing in the same conference (and it could end up being worse), but looking at the current NET rankings of the AAC 2.0, the only Q1 opportunities would be playing North Texas, Memphis, SMU, or UAB on the road.
This is the real issue. The AAC doesn't even have Houston and Cincinnati going forward. Imagine being left behind in that mess.
 

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