southie
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\Does't anyone know what the basis of this was?
I'm nas aot sure I'm following you. Chatrice transferred from Illinois to FSU. Usually the NCAA requires you to sit a year after transferring. The NCAA has ruled that Chatrice doesn't have to sit for a year. Good for her IMO. But it begs this question why was she made eligible immediately vs. say Azura Stevens. The coach at Illinois was investigated and vindicated as was the coach at Duke. Even Leticia Romero who transferred from KSU to FSU was not alowed to play immediately.\
Call me naive ---Until the season starts ---it is only punitive to a kid to not allow a fully open waiver. Kids make mistakes and the good one know it early. The only damage to the coach is the lost opportunity to get another player --to fill that slot. Why be vengeful ??
Bad karma comes back to get ya.
The Chatrice White and Leticia Romero cases are both complicated and good portions are private.I'm nas aot sure I'm following you. Chatrice transferred from Illinois to FSU. Usually the NCAA requires you to sit a year after transferring. The NCAA has ruled that Chatrice doesn't have to sit for a year. Good for her IMO. But it begs this question why was she made eligible immediately vs. say Azura Stevens. The coach at Illinois was investigated and vindicated as was the coach at Duke. Even Leticia Romero who transferred from KSU to FSU was not alowed to play immediately.
Think about it this way if Azura is ruled eligible to play immediately Vegas, the BY and the rest of WCBB is going to have to adjust the odds of UCONN winning 5 or 6 in a row.
I'm nas aot sure I'm following you. Chatrice transferred from Illinois to FSU. Usually the NCAA requires you to sit a year after transferring. The NCAA has ruled that Chatrice doesn't have to sit for a year. Good for her IMO. But it begs this question why was she made eligible immediately vs. say Azura Stevens. The coach at Illinois was investigated and vindicated as was the coach at Duke. Even Leticia Romero who transferred from KSU to FSU was not alowed to play immediately.
Think about it this way if Azura is ruled eligible to play immediately Vegas, the BY and the rest of WCBB is going to have to adjust the odds of UCONN winning 5 or 6 in a row.
I can see why JPM would not want to support Azura,(punitive) it has been her mode of operation for some time. But the NCAA should have allowed both to play immediately prior to the season beginning. The losing team or Conf should have not any say in the ability to play immediately or not--it should be an OPEN rule. Possibly Azura didn't request immediate eligibility
I can see why I confused you. Also by the end of Dec mid Jan Vegas and the Boneyard shall know if we have to adjust to less than 5 in a row.. I suspect getting the 5th is significantly more difficult than it would have been to get 6 or even 7 possibly 8
Whether Azura, or any other transfer, has to sit out has nothing to do with the support of her prior coach or any sort of waiver. The NCAA can waive the sit-out provision, which they rarely do, if there is some compelling reason - but whether the prior coach supports the player's case is irrelevant.
I doubt Azura or UConn requested a waiver because they knew the chance of succes was virtually zero. That would be true even if JPM begged the NCAA to let her play immediately.
]\I think the NCAA is probably feeling some pressure in PR terms to be more lenient to athletes on a number of issues and the waiver of the sit-out year is probably one of those areas. So past percentages of waiver decisions are probably not as relevant as they were say five years ago. All the issues surrounding LOI/scholarships are under attack.
The same is true for individual schools and the granting of releases. WCBB which is the only college sport I follow closely enough to have any awareness of transfers is pretty new to that aspect of the scholarship situation, with a recent surge in starters and key players transferring, so again past actions aren't that good an indication of what the current or future holds. The fact that Romero's situation was splashed across the media countrywide is not something that would likely have happened ten years ago regarding a WCBB player.
Illinois had two players transferred Brooke Kissinger to Creighton & Chatrice White to FSU. Per the Creighton web site "Due to NCAA Transfer regulations, Brooke will sit out the 2016-17 season after coming to Creighton from Illinios. "Whether Azura, or any other transfer, has to sit out has nothing to do with the support of her prior coach or any sort of waiver. The NCAA can waive the sit-out provision, which they rarely do, if there is some compelling reason - but whether the prior coach supports the player's case is irrelevant.
I doubt Azura or UConn requested a waiver because they knew the chance of succes was virtually zero. That would be true even if JPM begged the NCAA to let her play immediately.
Illinois had two players transferred Brooke Kissinger to Creighton & Chatrice White to FSU. Per the Creighton web site "Due to NCAA Transfer regulations, Brooke will sit out the 2016-17 season after coming to Creighton from Illinios. "
Per the article above Catrice will not sit out the coming season. While I'm not surprised at the Situational or lack of Ethics of the NCAA I am surprised that they are being this blatant about it. Of all the high profile transfers that have happened in the last 3 years Chatrice White is the only player that will not have to sit out-Why is that?
I was aware of the settlement and that "Grant, Gleason and Coleman were all granted exceptions by the NCAA to play immediately"."According to the following link, there were several former players involved in the UI lawsuit who were granted by the NCAA immediate waivers to play elsewhere upon transfer:
7 women's basketball players, UI reach settlement
I was aware of the settlement and that "Grant, Gleason and Coleman were all granted exceptions by the NCAA to play immediately"."
Brooke Kissinger & Chatrice White were not part of the suit/settlement and stayed on the Illinois team all of 2015-16 season.