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This guy is gonna put Gary Clark of Cincy on a stretcher.
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Check out the Guns! NBA body! (Not sure who the guy on the right is.) With Onuorah and Cobb underneath we added bulk and muscle! Gonna have to watch out that Randy doesn't try and steal them! LOL!
 

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Fair enough. I think most people have a touch of SAD, although I'm sure it's the case that some people suffer from it significantly more than others. Ithaca's not the best place for those people. It's pretty dreary from October to April. Spectacular the rest of the year.

Re your story about visiting in February, I visited Cornell on Mother's Day Weekend and there was a blizzard. And I still went there.

Yeah but Ithaca and Cornell is home of one of the top Grateful Dead concerts - so it has some merits!
Plus Cornell is one hell of a school
My Grandmother was the first female graduate student in their new education study way back in the early 1900s
 

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GTCAM was sure expressing in his posts like this was a big pickup. I feel it is more of alright pickup but nothing to get excited. We need bodies and he clearly fills this need. If we get the Italian kid now that will be a promising pickup from what I have read.
I said he was a great get for our bigs and he is. There is more bulk, a proven defensive presence and 5 more fouls. So he is a "big" pickup.
Thanks for keeping track for me, I really appreciate it
 

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Yeah but Ithaca and Cornell is home of one of the top Grateful Dead concerts - so it has some merits!
Funny, they just finally released 5/8/77 as an official recording only last month.

Except for Donna, I love the recordings from '77 generally. '72 to '77 is pretty much my sweet spot.
 
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Yeah but Ithaca and Cornell is home of one of the top Grateful Dead concerts - so it has some merits!
Plus Cornell is one hell of a school
My Grandmother was the first female graduate student in their new education study way back in the early 1900s
Cornell was also home to Huey Lewis for a few years until he quit and tried music. BTW, Lewis had a perfect 800 on the math SATs and was majoring in engineering.
 

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I don't think people are saying it is a bad pickup. He definitely fills the need of interior defender. Unfortunately, none of bigs are worth salivating for at this time. He is a body that hopefully will contribute this upcoming year but he isn't the cure for our recruiting blues like a few people were touting through this thread.
The kid has a known floor, which is quite probably more valuable for this year's team than what both Enoch and Durham combined could contribute, without taking up a scholarship for another year or two. The stats certainly bear that out.

Onuorah has as much experience as the two transfers, combined. As a Junior, he averaged 25.5 min/g (Together, Enoch and Durham averaged 20.4), 50.5% FG% (43.5%), 6.8 REBs/ (3.8), 45 BLKs (25), 21 STLs (10), and scored 140 points on his own vs. 143 for the two transfers combined.

The only stat he really falls down on is Free Throw% while taking 25 more. Plus Enoch can't play defense.
 

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The kid has a known floor, which is quite probably more valuable for this year's team than what both Enoch and Durham combined could contribute, without taking up a scholarship for another year or two. The stats certainly bear that out.

Probably not wrong for 2017-18, but it's two years down the line where that equation reveres itself.

Either way, I'm happy to get this kid.
 
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This kid is a no-risk pickup for a school that's been a pure freaking disaster in the spring recruiting season.

If he plays, great. If he's just a practice player, great.

It's one year and no one else wants the scholarship. Might as well give it to a very large Ivy League graduate who has some experience.

It's not a home run - it's not even a double. It's a bloop single, but at least it's that.

5-8 minutes a game with 2/2/.5 stats = a bloop single
8-12 minutes a game 3/3/1.5 stats a game = a hard single in the gap taking the turn heading to 2nd
12-15 minutes a game 4/4/1.5 a double with a turn and a thought
15-18 minutes a game and 6/6/2.2 he's heading to 3rd and sliding in safe.

This is all relative to what they needed.
 

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Yeah but Ithaca and Cornell is home of one of the top Grateful Dead concerts - so it has some merits!

There's been a lot of talk lately about the legendary fake show on 5/8/77. I've kept my silence on the subject for 22 years ... now it's finally time to come clean on the whole subject.

The whole idea began back in late 1969/early 1970. The Department of Defense and the CIA were very disappointed by the way the Vietnam War was progressing. Not only were we losing but, more importantly, the US public did not approve of the war and, worse yet, weren't believing everything the military said about what was happening. This was an unprecedented event. Every other recent war was viewed positively by the public ... or at least with apathy in the case of Korea. Something had to be done. They decided to take a page from the Soviets and experiment with mind control. Together with Disney and a fledgling computer company called Microsoft, they set out to prove that brainwashing could really work on the very people who opposed
them: the hippies.

It isn't widely known but Cornell was actually the second test of these mind control procedures. The first occurred in mid-1975 and was a dismal failure. 2 major mistakes were made. First, they picked the one time that the Dead were not touring. This created all sorts of problems with the subject audience. The more serious mistake was in not updating the criteria of the experiment. Due to typical government inefficiency, they used the 1969 version of the Dead that was playing when the program was conceived. The sudden appearance of Pigpen, who had died 2 years earlier, literally blew the minds of those in attendance. 6 months were spent erasing all traces of the "show" and carefully rebuilding as much of their minds as possible. The
subjects were eventually released and most of them became evangelists, their only lingering memory of the whole experiment being an unshakeable belief that they'd witnessed a true miracle.

Unfortunately, no tapes have been found from this first experiment. That's a real shame because the version of Dark Star->St Stephen->Eleven->Lovelight used was supposedly the best ever. After a few drinks, the original scientists still speak in awe about the music heard that day.

By Nov 1977, everyone was ready for the second test. This time, they learned from their mistakes. A small group of college students were hired to attend shows from 1976 through 1977. Our job was to collect tapes of the Dead's performances, select which tunes to use, and to
help identify subjects for the upcoming experiment. The location and date were chosen with equal care. It was a off-day during the tour and the location close enough to the real concerts to be believed. Of more
importance was the late snowfall that day. That unusual and easily confirmed event provided the glue that would hold the implanted memories together. Even now 22 years later, people "remembering" that concert use almost identical words to describe leaving the show.

Overall, the experiment was a great success. Of course, some people were given slightly different memories. Some, like Teddy Goodbear, "remember" taping the show and were even provided "Audience" tapes to further cement the hoax. Still others remember getting "horribly smashed" up front. None of this actually occurred.

A week after the "concert" experiment, a 2nd test was done on the town of Cornell itself. In order to perfect this hoax, the town itself must also be convinced that the concert took place. Disney had acquired owner- ship of all the local TV and radio stations through dummy corporations. Using special chips developed by Microsoft, they played sublimbminal messages to every man, woman and child in a 100 mile radius of Barton Hall. For the most part, this programming still holds today although some people did prove resistant to the message.

As far as the source of the music, for the most part the list posted by "brew ziggins" is correct. The only mystery remaining is the Scarlet-> Fire. That was actually performed by the Dead specifically for this experiment. Since Jerry worked for the CIA, it was easy to convince him and the rest of the band to go along. Plus he liked the idea of "pranking" a large group of people like this. The fabled 2/6/77 "take a step back" rehearsal tape is also from material taped for these experiments.

The soundboard tapes in circulation were leaked by Betty O'Connell who
edited the original tapes. I don't know if it was just a coincidence or not, but they were leaked at about the same time as the tapes recorded by Betty Cantor were found. In any event, they became part of the so-called "Betty Boards". Leaking these tapes also provided the first cracks in the hoax to appear since the tapes were distributed to people who were not in the experiment and who knew that no show was performed that day. It was necessary to obtain their silence through blackmail, bribery and in extreme cases, mind control itself. That's also how this "show" came to be listed in all the popular Dead show guides like DeadBase.

So what's happened to these mind control techniques used in this experiment? Microsoft has used this power to become one of the biggest, most influential companies in history. They sure didn't become that big by providing quality products. It was used to shape public reaction to the Gulf War. It's also clear that George Bush never understood the full power of these methods. . There are also indications that this technology might explain the otherwise unbelievable popularity of rap music.

That's the whole story.

"BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77 -- The Show That Never Happened"

Track listing Actual Source
------------ ---------------
1.Minglewood Blues [4:47] Winterland 3/20/77
2.Loser [7:30] Springfield 4/23/77
3.El Paso [4:22] Chicago 5/13/77
4.They Love Each Other [6:59] Lakeland 5/21/77
5.Jack Straw [6:00] Tempe 10/6/77
6.Deal [5:43] St. Paul 5/11/77
7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
8.Supplication [4:21] "
9.Brown-Eyed Women [5:12] Winterland 6/8/77
10.Mama Tried [2:37] Seattle 9/29/77
11.Row Jimmy [10:52] Fox, Atlanta 5/19/77
12.Dancin' in the Streets [15:43] Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 (DP3)

Set II:

13.Scarlet Begonias [9:14] > ???
14.Fire on the Mountain [15:21] ???
15.Estimated Prophet [8:32] Passaic NJ 4/27/77
16.St. Stephen [4:43] > Mostly Passaic NJ 6/18/76
17.Not Fade Away [16:22] > with some tricky splicing of the
18.St. Stephen [1:53] > middle of an unidentified NFA
19.Morning Dew [13:36] Cow Palace 12/31/76

Encore:

20.One More Saturday Night [4:54] Springfield 4/23/77
 
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There's been a lot of talk lately about the legendary fake show on 5/8/77. I've kept my silence on the subject for 22 years ... now it's finally time to come clean on the whole subject.

The whole idea began back in late 1969/early 1970. The Department of Defense and the CIA were very disappointed by the way the Vietnam War was progressing. Not only were we losing but, more importantly, the US public did not approve of the war and, worse yet, weren't believing everything the military said about what was happening. This was an unprecedented event. Every other recent war was viewed positively by the public ... or at least with apathy in the case of Korea. Something had to be done. They decided to take a page from the Soviets and experiment with mind control. Together with Disney and a fledgling computer company called Microsoft, they set out to prove that brainwashing could really work on the very people who opposed
them: the hippies.

It isn't widely known but Cornell was actually the second test of these mind control procedures. The first occurred in mid-1975 and was a dismal failure. 2 major mistakes were made. First, they picked the one time that the Dead were not touring. This created all sorts of problems with the subject audience. The more serious mistake was in not updating the criteria of the experiment. Due to typical government inefficiency, they used the 1969 version of the Dead that was playing when the program was conceived. The sudden appearance of Pigpen, who had died 2 years earlier, literally blew the minds of those in attendance. 6 months were spent erasing all traces of the "show" and carefully rebuilding as much of their minds as possible. The
subjects were eventually released and most of them became evangelists, their only lingering memory of the whole experiment being an unshakeable belief that they'd witnessed a true miracle.

Unfortunately, no tapes have been found from this first experiment. That's a real shame because the version of Dark Star->St Stephen->Eleven->Lovelight used was supposedly the best ever. After a few drinks, the original scientists still speak in awe about the music heard that day.

By Nov 1977, everyone was ready for the second test. This time, they learned from their mistakes. A small group of college students were hired to attend shows from 1976 through 1977. Our job was to collect tapes of the Dead's performances, select which tunes to use, and to
help identify subjects for the upcoming experiment. The location and date were chosen with equal care. It was a off-day during the tour and the location close enough to the real concerts to be believed. Of more
importance was the late snowfall that day. That unusual and easily confirmed event provided the glue that would hold the implanted memories together. Even now 22 years later, people "remembering" that concert use almost identical words to describe leaving the show.

Overall, the experiment was a great success. Of course, some people were given slightly different memories. Some, like Teddy Goodbear, "remember" taping the show and were even provided "Audience" tapes to further cement the hoax. Still others remember getting "horribly smashed" up front. None of this actually occurred.

A week after the "concert" experiment, a 2nd test was done on the town of Cornell itself. In order to perfect this hoax, the town itself must also be convinced that the concert took place. Disney had acquired owner- ship of all the local TV and radio stations through dummy corporations. Using special chips developed by Microsoft, they played sublimbminal messages to every man, woman and child in a 100 mile radius of Barton Hall. For the most part, this programming still holds today although some people did prove resistant to the message.

As far as the source of the music, for the most part the list posted by "brew ziggins" is correct. The only mystery remaining is the Scarlet-> Fire. That was actually performed by the Dead specifically for this experiment. Since Jerry worked for the CIA, it was easy to convince him and the rest of the band to go along. Plus he liked the idea of "pranking" a large group of people like this. The fabled 2/6/77 "take a step back" rehearsal tape is also from material taped for these experiments.

The soundboard tapes in circulation were leaked by Betty O'Connell who
edited the original tapes. I don't know if it was just a coincidence or not, but they were leaked at about the same time as the tapes recorded by Betty Cantor were found. In any event, they became part of the so-called "Betty Boards". Leaking these tapes also provided the first cracks in the hoax to appear since the tapes were distributed to people who were not in the experiment and who knew that no show was performed that day. It was necessary to obtain their silence through blackmail, bribery and in extreme cases, mind control itself. That's also how this "show" came to be listed in all the popular Dead show guides like DeadBase.

So what's happened to these mind control techniques used in this experiment? Microsoft has used this power to become one of the biggest, most influential companies in history. They sure didn't become that big by providing quality products. It was used to shape public reaction to the Gulf War. It's also clear that George Bush never understood the full power of these methods. . There are also indications that this technology might explain the otherwise unbelievable popularity of rap music.

That's the whole story.

"BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77 -- The Show That Never Happened"

Track listing Actual Source
------------ ---------------
1.Minglewood Blues [4:47] Winterland 3/20/77
2.Loser [7:30] Springfield 4/23/77
3.El Paso [4:22] Chicago 5/13/77
4.They Love Each Other [6:59] Lakeland 5/21/77
5.Jack Straw [6:00] Tempe 10/6/77
6.Deal [5:43] St. Paul 5/11/77
7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
8.Supplication [4:21] "
9.Brown-Eyed Women [5:12] Winterland 6/8/77
10.Mama Tried [2:37] Seattle 9/29/77
11.Row Jimmy [10:52] Fox, Atlanta 5/19/77
12.Dancin' in the Streets [15:43] Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 (DP3)

Set II:

13.Scarlet Begonias [9:14] > ???
14.Fire on the Mountain [15:21] ???
15.Estimated Prophet [8:32] Passaic NJ 4/27/77
16.St. Stephen [4:43] > Mostly Passaic NJ 6/18/76
17.Not Fade Away [16:22] > with some tricky splicing of the
18.St. Stephen [1:53] > middle of an unidentified NFA
19.Morning Dew [13:36] Cow Palace 12/31/76

Encore:

20.One More Saturday Night [4:54] Springfield 4/23/77
Fake or real, jerry was flowing like water and that's really all that counts.
 

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5-8 minutes a game with 2/2/.5 stats = a bloop single
8-12 minutes a game 3/3/1.5 stats a game = a hard single in the gap taking the turn heading to 2nd
12-15 minutes a game 4/4/1.5 a double with a turn and a thought
15-18 minutes a game and 6/6/2.2 he's heading to 3rd and sliding in safe.

This is all relative to what they needed.

What "they need" is a good high-major front court player who can play 28 minutes and actually make the opposing coach have to think about dealing with him on both ends of the court.

That's what they need. But that's not what they got.

This kid is a bloop single on a good day. He'll fit in with the bunt single and the 'reached on an error' they'd previously signed this spring.
 

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Back from a 2 day ban.

Nice to see a commit upon return. This kid has some pipes, so glad we have someone that will command respect from opposing bruisers, will be very needed against teams like Cincy.

If David can give us even 8pts and 8 rebounds a game with a block I'll be happy.
 

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What "they need" is a good high-major front court player who can play 28 minutes and actually make the opposing coach have to think about dealing with him on both ends of the court.

That's what they need. But that's not what they got.

This kid is a bloop single on a good day. He'll fit in with the bunt single and the 'reached on an error' they'd previously signed this spring.

As long as we are making baseball analogies for basketball players, I choose to think of Onuorah as better than the HBP and the attempt-to-work-the-count-for-a-walk, before-ultimately-striking-out-looking that he replaces.
 

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This pickup is a very good one for us, specifically because it fills a need with an experienced player.

This allows us a better chance to avoid having to play "small ball" with 3 guard and 4 guard sets, meaning Jalen and Alterique will be fresher, meaning Larrier will not have to play out of his position, meaning David's value is to be measured in much more than simply his point production. He'll be worth well more than a friggin bloop single...
 

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