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A lot of talk from Herbst early. But she hasn't walked the walk.
conflicts between the two strongest personalities in the athletic department.
Not saying I buy or don't buy. Just repeating something from a third party which is "in the business" so to speak that I thought was pertinant to the poster's question.No offense, but if you think that the relationship between our Men's and Women's basketball coaches have any impact on expansion decision...then I have a bridge to sell you at a great price.
No. The crunch time is for our Governor. He was blindsided, following his helping ESPN to corporate welfare from the Connecticut taxpayers, when ESPN cooperated with the ACC to take Syracuse and Pitt and not us. So be it. But if his discussions thereafter did not make sure ESPN wouldn't help another conference doing this again without making sure UConn was taken care of, he is an incompetent buffoon and deserves no ones support.
We will know shortly. Either UConn needs to be taken care of or ESPN needs to get not a dime of taxpayer money.
BL:
I am pissed at ESPN as well and firmly believe that they have played a huge role in all aspects of conference re-alignment. This thing also has their fingerprints all over it.
HOWEVER, do you really think the governor is going to risk thousands of high paying jobs in CT over this? I just can;t see him "threatening" ESPN at all as I know 49 other states that would bend over backwards to have ESPN. Also most ESPN people would prefer to be out of CT anyways as they are here only for work and constantly bad mouth the area anyways.
Playing a game of chicken with ESPN is not to the state of CT's advantage.
Since you can't bother to read earlier posts, I can't but -Care to back this up?
Number 4 ... Funny how the 4 North Carolina schools slide through all this (particularly Duke & Wake). Lots of Programs are better ... but they get the big payday?
I also hate this in CFB.
Since you can't bother to read earlier posts, I can't but -
Also, the people making these decisions have the TV numbers for both FB and BB. They know who draws the biggest collective set of eyes and the resulting TV contract $$$. People can post all day long about the numbers that Uconn can bring from outside of CT but there has to be some evidence that Uconn (and RU) do not deliver NYC to any large degree. I do not have any facts to support that conclusion, but is seems pretty apparent based on who has moved and who has not.
No. The crunch time is for our Governor. He was blindsided, following his helping ESPN to corporate welfare from the Connecticut taxpayers, when ESPN cooperated with the ACC to take Syracuse and Pitt and not us. So be it. But if his discussions thereafter did not make sure ESPN wouldn't help another conference doing this again without making sure UConn was taken care of, he is an incompetent buffoon and deserves no ones support.
We will know shortly. Either UConn needs to be taken care of or ESPN needs to get not a dime of taxpayer money.
As a small business owner who has never asked for it, I am not a big fan of corporate welfare generally. When the state pays it, and I acknowledge there are reasons to pay it, I expect it to only go to a business that isn't feeling free to screwing the state in other ways while they take our money and produce jobs.
If those terms aren't acceptable, then yes, f@@@ing go elsewhere with your jobs and let some other state be the sucker that pays you.
I don't know if we're on the same side of the socio-economic-political fence on most things BL - but I stand with you on this. I'm a proud resident of CT, and a small business owner and I just cut my state tax check today, which reflects approx a 100% increase in what I paid not too long ago, except nothing in my own business has really changed.
Malloy, or whomever is pulling his puppet strings, better get this thing right.
Some months ago I repeated comments that came from a person in the SEC office who plays in the same golf dog fight as I do. For what it is worth (maybe nothing) I will summarize again them here. UConn is like a hot girl who is high maintenance. She is great to date but getting married requires a lot more thought. Source of the high maintenance opinion: Reaction to the initial BE split, conflicts between the two strongest personalities in the athletic department.
Since you can't bother to read earlier posts, I can't but -
Also, the people making these decisions have the TV numbers for both FB and BB. They know who draws the biggest collective set of eyes and the resulting TV contract $$$. People can post all day long about the numbers that Uconn can bring from outside of CT but there has to be some evidence that Uconn (and RU) do not deliver NYC to any large degree. I do not have any facts to support that conclusion, but is seems pretty apparent based on who has moved and who has not.
To be clear, I am not saying business owners generally owe the State a duty. If I want to take on a case against the State of Connecticut, that is my right. And if ESPN felt free screwing UConn, that is its right. But when you take money from the state, you are implicitly agreeing to be in a fiduciary relationship with it, and then you just can't say I can do whatever I want.
At least, that's my view. But I have been a strong supporter of this Administration and I now want to see something.
I like the sentiment but I am pretty sure that this wasn't a contingency built into the original deal. Now, as to any new deal, the State should absolutely hold ESPN accountable. Until then, if Malloy even gets a meeting, it is only as a courtesy.No. The crunch time is for our Governor. He was blindsided, following his helping ESPN to corporate welfare from the Connecticut taxpayers, when ESPN cooperated with the ACC to take Syracuse and Pitt and not us. So be it. But if his discussions thereafter did not make sure ESPN wouldn't help another conference doing this again without making sure UConn was taken care of, he is an incompetent buffoon and deserves no ones support.
We will know shortly. Either UConn needs to be taken care of or ESPN needs to get not a dime of taxpayer money.
Regardless of the UConn conference situation, ESPN and what happens with everything, Malloy is an incompetent buffoon. The office of governor of CT does not attract great intellectual talent except in rare cases. It doesn't pay much and you have to deal with the real intellectual lowlifes in the legislature. Would any one of us want the job? This is from a Democrat and from someone who was appointed to his last position by one of them. Although I was competent for the position I got it because of who I knew, not because I was necessarily the best. Expect nothing from Malloy and be super surprised (and pleased) if I turn out to be wrong.
I like the sentiment but I am pretty sure that this wasn't a contingency built into the original deal. Now, as to any new deal, the State should absolutely hold ESPN accountable. Until then, if Malloy even gets a meeting, it is only as a courtesy.
Unfortunately, ESPN is not screwing the state. They are keeping and adding jobs in the state. Their business dealings with the BE really has nothing to do with the tax incentives they received. They are 2 distinct things. The impact that any of the conference moves/income has on Uconn as a fiscal consideration is much smaller than the fiscal impact of ESPN keeping and adding jobs.I can't disagree more strongly. When two parties enter into a deal, each expect the other not to screw them. whether the contract says that or not.
Unfortunately, ESPN is not screwing the state. They are keeping and adding jobs in the state. Their business dealings with the BE really has nothing to do with the tax incentives they received. They are 2 distinct things. The impact that any of the conference moves/income has on Uconn as a fiscal consideration is much smaller than the fiscal impact of ESPN keeping and adding jobs.
And yes, the state of CT is giving away way too many of these things for my liking and are giving to them to businesses that really do not deserve them.
I hear your point. I still disagree. If I take $5M to expand into Hartford and add thirty new lawyers and thirty or forty other jobs, I don't go ahead and take a case to sue the State of Connecticut. I don't care that the contract doesn't flat out forbid me -- if you take money from someone you owe them something more than taking it and hiring people.