OT: Celtics diss Ray Allen

[superjohn]

I have the vivid images of him missing tons of open looks in the 4th

Look at the box score.

http://www.nba.com/games/20100617/BOSLAL/gameinfo.html#nbaGIlive

I remember the game well, everyone sucked.

 

[the Q]

Really? They happen all the time. Just bring up the Pats and boom....the City of Boston, their teams, and their fans get torched.

Cheaters deserve to get torched.

See the unc talk here too.

 

[NielsisGood]

Perkins getting hurt game 6 and out for G7 hurt real bad.

Pau still averaged 18.5/12.5 with 2.5 bpg on like 48%. He was Duncan-lite basically in that series.

 

[Scoe]

I agree with you about 2010 but the team also had no answer for Pau that entire series either. The best team thing is totally subjective, even assuming you're not counting teams that came after like GSW, most people would probably still say the Shaq/Kobe Lakers I'd imagine. Still subjective though.

Or the Duncan-Robinson Spurs team.

 

[the Q]

Or the Duncan-Robinson Spurs team.

08 Celts are certainly better than the Spurs.

And most likely better than those lakers teams.

 

[champs99and04]

Pau still averaged 18.5/12.5 with 2.5 bpg on like 48%. He was Duncan-lite basically in that series.

Should have been MVP.

 

[champs99and04]

08 Celts are certainly better than the Spurs.

And most likely better than those lakers teams.

The '08 Celtics got taken 7 by the 37 win Hawks. Dominant regular season, dominant at times in the playoffs (especially in the finals), but that's tough to overlook.

 

[UConn990411]

The '08 Celtics got taken 7 by the 37 win Hawks. Dominant regular season, dominant at times in the playoffs (especially in the finals), but that's tough to overlook.

I would put that Spurs team ahead of the Celtics, but using a 7-game sample size out of a 100+ game season doesn't make for a strong argument.

 

[champs99and04]

I would put that Spurs team ahead of the Celtics, but using a 7-game sample size out of a 100+ game season doesn't make for a strong argument.

Part of me agrees, but it's still enough to give me pause, especially when a 45-win Cavs team with a negative point differential took them another 7 the next round. It's a 100 game sample, but all of those 100 games aren't created equal when discussing the merits of an all-time great team. 10 playoff losses is an a-ton for a title winning team.

I'm not going to argue, though, because I distinctly remember watching game six against LA thinking it was the greatest team I'd ever seen. Hyperbole, probably, but that's how I felt at the time. They really just flipped the switch game 3 @ Detroit and never looked back.

 

[Scoe]

08 Celts are certainly better than the Spurs.

And most likely better than those lakers teams.

You can settle the argument on this site lets do a best of 7 series 2-3-2 format team with better record gets home court.

 

[Scoe]

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[Scoe]

I would put that Spurs team ahead of the Celtics, but using a 7-game sample size out of a 100+ game season doesn't make for a strong argument.

We can settle that argument right now on whatifsports.com, its fun to do these match ups anyways.

 

[intlzncster]

Cheaters deserve to get torched.

See the unc talk here too.

hahahahahahahaha city

 

[the Q]

hahahahahahahaha city

i don't play with that .

you cheat. you get caught. deal with it.

don't lie and make excuses like these 2 did.

 

[Scoe]

Ok so here we go NBA finals 08 Celtics vs 03 Spurs, Celtics get the home court.

Game1 @boston

Spurs win game 1, 105-83
Ray 2 pts
Rondo 4 pts 4 assts
Pierce 18 pts
KG 12 pts

Duncan 22 and 18
Parker 18 and 6
Malik Rose 16 pts

Game 2 @ Boston

Celtics win game 2, 99-85

Duncan 22 and 15
Robinson 10 and 11
Manu 12
Parker 5 and 6

Ray 17 pts, 8 reb, 4 asst 4/7 from 3
Pierce 29 and 11
Rondo 11, 4 and 5
KG 13, 6, and 7

Ill resume the rest of the series later so the series is tied 1-1 going to SA for 3 games, this should be a great series.

 

[the Q]

Ok so here we go NBA finals 08 Celtics vs 03 Spurs, Celtics get the home court.

Game1 @boston

Spurs win game 1, 105-83
Ray 2 pts
Rondo 4 pts 4 assts
Pierce 18 pts
KG 12 pts

Duncan 22 and 18
Parker 18 and 6
Malik Rose 16 pts

Game 2 @ Boston

Celtics win game 2, 99-85

Duncan 22 and 15
Robinson 10 and 11
Manu 12
Parker 5 and 6

Ray 17 pts, 8 reb, 4 asst 4/7 from 3
Pierce 29 and 11
Rondo 11, 4 and 5
KG 13, 6, and 7

Ill resume the rest of the series later so the series is tied 1-1 going to SA for 3 games, this should be a great series.

yeah, KG and Allen.

that tells me what I need to know about this thing.

 

[Scoe]

yeah, KG and Allen.

that tells me what I need to know about this thing.

Rondo had a bad game too, you saw what Ray did in game 2 series isn't over yet. Remember Ray's performance agains the Bulls if not for him the Celtics go down against the number 8 seed.

 

[the Q]

Rondo had a bad game too, you saw what Ray did in game 2 series isn't over yet. Remember Ray's performance agains the Bulls if not for him the Celtics go down against the number 8 seed.

The problem is unless you do like 1000 of these it's not all that useful.

That's what a lot o these analytics machine sites do. Runs tons of simulations.

It's how in the preseason awful teams win a title in some simulations lol.

 

[SubZero]

I remember Ray Allen getting stuffed by Gasol on a critical layup that he half-assed. That probably cost the Celtics the gamed the championship. Allen played this game like he didn't care...and it looks like the Celtics never forgave him for his lack of fire in this game.

 

[August_West]

It's Boston. When in doubt screw the black guy. No shocker there .

 

[JSM1970]

I agree, his 4th cost the game, he was awful

Truth, Rondo, KG know that and want nothing to do with him and then he bailed and never even texted them on his exit

I remember Ray Allen getting stuffed by Gasol on a critical layup that he half-assed. That probably cost the Celtics the gamed the championship. Allen played this game like he didn't care...and it looks like the Celtics never forgave him for his lack of fire in this game.

 

[NielsisGood]

08 Celts are certainly better than the Spurs.

And most likely better than those lakers teams.

2000 Lakers went 67-15 and Shaq was absolutely insane that year. Averaged 29/13 3+ bpg, then upped that to 30/15 for the playoffs, then upped that to 38/17 in the finals.

 

[mauconnfan]

I agree, his 4th cost the game, he was awful

Truth, Rondo, KG know that and want nothing to do with him and then he bailed and never even texted them on his exit

Rondo is a please don't include him on the reason Ray Ray isn't a favorite amongst teammates.

 

[Scoe]

Ok game @ SA series tied 1--1

Celtics win game 3 107-77 now up 2-1

Duncan 19 and 7
KG 18, 6, and 5
Pierce 16, 5 and 5
Ray 32 and 7, 4/7 from 3

Game 4 @ SA

Spurs win game 4 92-91, series tied at 2
Duncan 30 pts 17 reb, 8 asst, 7 blocks

Game 5 @ SA

Spurs win game 5 101-80, Spurs lead 3-2 going back to Boston

Ray 14 and 10
Pierce 9 pts
KG 8 pts
Rondo 2 pts, 3 reb, 3 assts
Cassell 20 pts

Duncan 21 and 13
Parker 11 pts, 5 assts
Bowen 7 pts, 3 blocks
Rose 11 pts
Willis 8 pts
Admiral 16 and 12, 6 blocks

Game 6 @Boston
Celtics win game 6 93-77

Duncan 18 and 12
Ray 14 and 7
Pierce 18, 6, and 5
KG 17 and 11
Rondo 14 and 8 assts
Cassell 11
Perk 9 and 5

Game 7 @ Boston
Celtics win series 86-77

Duncan 18 and 8
Ray 20, 3 and 4, 3/4 from 3
Pierce 19, 6 and 5
KG 13, 13, 5 blocks, 3 stls
Perk 5 pts, 11 reb
Scalabrine 9 pts, 2/3 from 3

Heres what did the Spurs in the Celtics won the 1st quarter 24-11

 

[the Q]

That went 2 games too long