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"The fact that the Big Ten and the Council of Presidents and Chancellors made this decision with no input from those assuming these risks is appalling," -from Iowa parents letter.

 

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This is just the start...……………………...
 
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"The fact that the Big Ten and the Council of Presidents and Chancellors made this decision with no input from those assuming these risks is appalling," -from Iowa parents letter.

Darwin strikes again.
 
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"The fact that the Big Ten and the Council of Presidents and Chancellors made this decision with no input from those assuming these risks is appalling," -from Iowa parents letter.

When you live your lives through your kids, not even a pandemic and who else you might hurt, stands in your way!
 
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This Yale created saliva test for Covid that the NBA is going to use could potentially be a game changer. The Big 10 may end up regretting not waiting a few more weeks to make their decision.

There will be a lot of second guessing if even the AAC successfully pulls off a season.

Has CT even cancelled their high school football season yet?
 
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This Yale created saliva test for Covid that the NBA is going to use could potentially be a game changer. The Big 10 may end up regretting not waiting a few more weeks to make their decision.

There will be a lot of second guessing if even the AAC successfully pulls off a season.


I agree. I think there was still time to wait and see what happens in the next few weeks.

Was anyone else surprised that, according to UConn, of the approx 1400 students at the Storrs campus that have been tested so far, only 2 were positive?
 
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"The fact that the Big Ten and the Council of Presidents and Chancellors made this decision with no input from those assuming these risks is appalling," -from Iowa parents letter.

Been telling most of you guys, we are on the wrong side of the argument. Parents aren.t stupid and kids aren't stupid. The science and statistics tell you what to do, what the risks are and how to minimize them.
 

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This Yale created saliva test for Covid that the NBA is going to use could potentially be a game changer. The Big 10 may end up regretting not waiting a few more weeks to make their decision.

There will be a lot of second guessing if even the AAC successfully pulls off a season.

Has CT even cancelled their high school football season yet?

might be interesting to see if a few of the AAC teams can poach some P5 players who want to play.
 
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Im sure the parents of football players know more than Mark Schlissel, president of the university of Michigan, an immunologist, medical doctor, and professor of cellular biology.
Don’t you know that a medical degree from THE University or Facebook means they know more than this so called “expert” of the immune system and cellular biology?
 
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This Yale created saliva test for Covid that the NBA is going to use could potentially be a game changer.
Yale SalivaDirect test's 3-4 hour result turnaround certainly beats some tests requiring a few to several days for results. Quicker turnaround, lower cost and no need to big pharma's and big testing company's highly-accurate yet slow equipment is huge, but it's unclear similar or better quality alternatives do not exist.

Without access to more facts on the Yale test's sensitivity (testing presence of disease) and specificity (rules out person who does not have disease; a negative result's absolutely a negative), initial info suggests other quick turnaround tests exist with higher sensitivity and specificity. For example, the FDA granted EUA (emergency use) and EU gave similar CE authorization to CODX's spit test. At 100% specificity and specificity, CODX' $7/test provides sample run results in 45-90 minutes and final results confirmation in 24-48 hours. 100% accuracy, me like!

Additionally, the FDA's reviewing even more rapid diagnostic tests with 10-15 minute turnaround. Aside from effective, reasonable cost therapeutics and eventually similarly effective, reasonable cost vaccines, rapid diagnostic and anti-body tests with results in <1/2 hour will be vital to gradually return to a more normal, new normal in the next year or so. The more testing, the faster accuracy, the better for all.
 
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I agree. I think there was still time to wait and see what happens in the next few weeks.

Was anyone else surprised that, according to UConn, of the approx 1400 students at the Storrs campus that have been tested so far, only 2 were positive?

Not particularly. Not with the way our case curve is largely flat and mask/distancing adherence is pretty high statewide and regionally.

Give things another two weeks though, and we might have a different story on our hands, depending on how students are behaving now.
 

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Yale SalivaDirect test's 3-4 hour result turnaround certainly beats some tests requiring a few to several days for results. Quicker turnaround, lower cost and no need to big pharma's and big testing company's highly-accurate yet slow equipment is huge, but it's unclear similar or better quality alternatives do not exist.

Without access to more facts on the Yale test's sensitivity (testing presence of disease) and specificity (rules out person who does not have disease; a negative result's absolutely a negative), initial info suggests other quick turnaround tests exist with higher sensitivity and specificity. For example, the FDA granted EUA (emergency use) and EU gave similar CE authorization to CODX's spit test. At 100% specificity and specificity, CODX' $7/test provides sample run results in 45-90 minutes and final results confirmation in 24-48 hours. 100% accuracy, me like!

Additionally, the FDA's reviewing even more rapid diagnostic tests with 10-15 minute turnaround. Aside from effective, reasonable cost therapeutics and eventually similarly effective, reasonable cost vaccines, rapid diagnostic and anti-body tests with results in <1/2 hour will be vital to gradually return to a more normal, new normal in the next year or so. The more testing, the faster accuracy, the better for all.
Faster results don’t change the outcome. The problem is in scheduling, rescheduling, the last second adjustments that accurate, fast testing doesn’t resolve. One way or another, the decision makers are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. In their shoes, I think they would be nuts to do anything but follow medical advice.

Fans, players, player parents might not be exercising great judgement given that a bad decision affects too many people who are on the playing field who might not agree. So they opt out. Great way to deal with a contagion. This country struggles to screw around with a virus like no other country and winds up with worse control.
 
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As we watch the progression of the virus, it seems painfully obvious there are no experts on Covid-19. There are people experienced with pandemics, there are people with degrees and titles but they are always getting things wrong. Guess that's why they call it a "novel coronavirus."
 

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So only 4 positive cases out of thousands of young college students, with none of them actually being sick? We cancelled football for this?
If you can make the same post in October you will have a point. In the meantime I'm old enough to remember when we had 1200+ people in hospitals statewide...old enough to remember when Greenwich and Stamford hospitals were at capacity and had to mobilize expanded facilities converting out patient centers to over flow facilities.
 
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It’s wrong for the higher ups to be making decisions for these athletes. The word “player safety” is nothing more then a shield in order to go on a power trip. This has 100 percent to do with politics.
 
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Do these presidents realize that there are players who die every year from playing football does that matter to them no. As a matter of fact it is more dangerous to play in the spring then it is to get Covid playing football this year.
 
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