hardcorehusky
Lost patience with the garden variety UConn fan
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Do we all realize that Holy Cross and Yale are now ahead of BC basketball!!
Syracuse will be BC 's annual football rival game, imo. In order to have a football rivalry, both school's and its fanbases have to recognize it as such ( Uconn knows this from Central Florida's position re. Diaco's quest to make Central Florida, Uconn's football rival.). BC voted for Uconn's admittance to the Big East, when Uconn made its quest to join. BC also voted " yes " for Uconn's quest to join Hockey East. BC does not want Uconn in the ACC, but if Commish Swofford and the other ACC school Presidents wanted Uconn in the ACC, they could have acted on it at any time, and BC could not have stopped it on their own. That said, BC, under their new AD Bates, did agree to play Uconn in football again ( and against the wishes of Uconn's Jim Calhoun, and quite a few BC older alums ). The vast majority of younger students at BC now come from outside of N.E however., so for most of them, putting Uconn football back on BC's schedule draws no more than a shrug from them at seeing Bates add Uconn to its football schedule for a game every few years or so.
Not to split hairs, but to clarify my remarks above, I did not state that " BC is is at its lowest point " ever ". ( I said " in awhile ). I was in the stands in '78 for example when BC under Coach Ed Cheblek was winless at 0-11 in football that season, and was shut out that season by Umass 27-0. Later that season the BB was found losing to Holy Cross, Stonehill and the like. Things do go in cycles however. BC has won regular season Atlantic Division football and basketball titles since joining the ACC, and they have been in the cellar in both basketball and football too. I know some in the media think that BC will not bounce back from their current last place positions in ACC Basketball and football, but many of them tend to be unfamiliar with the history of BC football and Basketball that since WW2 has had both its ups and its downs, but BC has rarely gone more than a few years without bouncing back again. The suggesion we read in some quarters that BC will never become competitive again in either football of basketball could prove prophetic.. who knows,... but it would have to overcome 60 years of historical data from the past that shows otherwise for this to become true in the future.
BC, Syracuse, Rutgers and UCONN should have never separated. College athletics is largely a regional following. ND in football, probably UCONN in hoops command national attention, but none of BC, Cuse, Rutty or UCONN command any kind on meaningful national attention in football. Were reasonable business people running those athletic departments they would have done all they could to keep those programs together. Gene DeFelippo was about as far away from a reasonable business person as one could possibly get and I suspect Fr. Leahy holds little interest in seeing high level athletic success given what he has put up with from his AD.
BC has a pay check and I guess fans can be happy with that. The ones that show up for games anyway. When you start counting men's hoop attendance by the hundreds you have no small problem on your hands. Adazio sh!ts the bed next season and BC is in a world of hurt. UCONN bring 10k fans to Alumni will be no small thing. God knows we used to fill Conte.
Do we all realize that Holy Cross and Yale are now ahead of BC basketball!!
Holy Cross has now won the same number of NCAA tournament games in the last 10 years (after 2006) as BC has won - 1.
Syracuse will be BC 's annual football rival game, imo. In order to have a football rivalry, both school's and its fanbases have to recognize it as such ( Uconn knows this from Central Florida's position re. Diaco's quest to make Central Florida, Uconn's football rival.). BC voted for Uconn's admittance to the Big East, when Uconn made its quest to join. BC also voted " yes " for Uconn's quest to join Hockey East. BC does not want Uconn in the ACC, but if Commish Swofford and the other ACC school Presidents wanted Uconn in the ACC, they could have acted on it at any time, and BC could not have stopped it on their own. That said, BC, under their new AD Bates, did agree to play Uconn in football again ( and against the wishes of Uconn's Jim Calhoun, and quite a few BC older alums ). The vast majority of younger students at BC now come from outside of N.E however., so for most of them, putting Uconn football back on BC's schedule draws no more than a shrug from them at seeing Bates add Uconn to its football schedule for a game every few years or so.
' Not sure 2017-2018 could be much worse than 2015-2016. That said, if BC football is going to get even worse next season according to many here who seem to believe they know the BC football program pretty well, then Uconn should handle BC in football pretty easily up at Alumni this November. Thats because I'm reading on here that expectations for the Uconn football team next year is that apparently the Uconn football team will be much better than this year... and so the sentiment I'm getting from reading things here is that BC probably should not have scheduled this game, as from all indications, the Uconn football team will embarrass BC in their place this November. Do I have the prevailing sentiments from most Uconn football fans on here accurately on this ? Just asking, as from my readings on here, it appears BC football will " get worse before they get better ".Things will get worse at BC before they get any better.
. UConn would have been in the P5 Conference if BC did not intentionally block them on the first ACC attempt. .
I suspect Fr. Leahy holds little interest in seeing high level athletic success
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Check your 2016 ACC football calendar...BC's "rivalry" game next year is Wake Forest, it is not Syracuse. Syracuse's rivalry game is Pittsburgh. This is what the lack of .
Holy Cross started playing football in 1891. You should start writing BC-themed fiction novels. Novels where they win championships in sports other than hockey. Or even are relevant in sports other than hockey. Whichever suits your readers.Holy Cross started playing football in 1937... 78 years ago. One thing we can safely say with certainty is that Holy Cross has never... and will never.... win a Major College Football Bowl Game. That said, congrats to Holy Cross in their basketball tourney win.
BC, Syracuse, Rutgers and UCONN should have never separated. College athletics is largely a regional following. .
I was referring to BC basketball. But if you want to believe your boy Gene D's quote in the Globe article that he thought Donahue was 1 season away from turning the program round go ahead. That program has gone from competitive to the absolute worst P-5/G-5 program in the country and it doesn't look like things will change anytime soon.' Not sure 2017-2018 could be much worse than 2015-2016. That said, if BC football is going to get even worse next season according to many here who seem to believe they know the BC football program pretty well, then Uconn should handle BC in football pretty easily up at Alumni this November. Thats because I'm reading on here that expectations for the Uconn football team next year is that apparently the Uconn football team will be much better than this year... and so the sentiment I'm getting from reading things here is that BC probably should not have scheduled this game, as from all indications, the Uconn football team will embarrass BC in their place this November. Do I have the prevailing sentiments from most Uconn football fans on here accurately on this ? Just asking, as from my readings on here, it appears BC football will " get worse before they get better ".
Apples and Oranges. WVU closest conference game is 1500 miles away. And the closest major airport to Morgantown is almost 100 miles away. WVU is in a world of hurt in terms of travel. Think about it, adding Uconn cuts their travel distance for at least 1 game by 2/3.I love it how WVU has clamored for a regional rival and travel partner ever since joining the BIG 12 ... while BCU has actively fought against the same. It's pretty obvious which program needs it more!!
Pitt was available at that time and they took Pitt because BC cried that they didn't want UConn. It was initially Cuse and UConn to the ACC, but BC's objections got them Pitt.There appears to be some genuine confliction on this. For example, when BC was contemplating leaving the Big East for the ACC, I distinctly remember reading on the Uconn football boards that if BC goes to the ACC.. " BC will never have any influence in the ACC as Tobacco Road runs that league, and will make its decisions on all things and turn a deaf ear to any of BC's concerns ". However, once BC took the invite to the ACC, the prevailing thought on the Uconn boards seemed to be that BC had such enormous political leverage within the ACC that it could single handedly keep Uconn out of the ACC by prevailing upon the other ACC schools to act upon BC's bidding. Did BC have the enormous political leverage among the other long standing ACC schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No. I don't think so. They had one vote, no more, no less. Besides, it is my assessment that if the Schools in the ACC... and its Commissioner... wanted Uconn in the ACC, Uconn would be in the ACC, and BC could not stop the other schools. That said, if some on here want to stay with the narrative we have heard on here before, that BC has such enormous political leverage that they can single handedly keep Uconn out of he ACC, they are entitled to that narrative. But I would just respectfully disagree that BC has such political muscle in the ACC among Tobacco Road, and the other ACC Schools.
Pitt was available at that time and they took Pitt because BC cried that they didn't want UConn. It was initially Cuse and UConn to the ACC, but BC's objections got them Pitt.
Pitt was available at that time and they took Pitt because BC cried that they didn't want UConn. It was initially Cuse and UConn to the ACC, but BC's objections got them Pitt.
Pitt was available at that time and they took Pitt because BC cried that they didn't want UConn. It was initially Cuse and UConn to the ACC, but BC's objections got them Pitt.
Thats actually untrue. In the summer of 2003, officials at Miami and BC met together ind Miami school officials informed BC ( 1st school in the then BE to be informed ) of Miami's intentions of leaving the BE for the ACC in 2004. BC tried, unsuccessfully to persuade Miami to stay. But Miami, long upset with the basketball centric leadership of Mike Tranghese out of Providence, by 2003 had had enough and told BC this. BC came backfrom that meeting and told Syracuse that if Miami bolted for the ACC, BC would consider the loss of Miami as a blow to the BE that would soon start to dominos to fall that would quickly lead to the collapse of the BE football league. BC decided then and there to seek out the ACC on behalf of themselves as well.In late 2003, BC, Miami, Syracuse officials met with Swofford, and told Swofford the 3 were prepared as a group to leave for the ACC. However, in Dec. 2003, Boeheim at Syracuse got wind of this, and told the School that he did not support the school leaving the BE for the ACC. Syracuse then became conflicted between the football faction at Syracuse that wanted to leave the BE, and the Basketball faction there that wanted to see Syracuse stay in the BE. In the vacumn of indecisiveness from Syracuse, Virginia Tech then stepped into the fray to supplant Syracuse as a school to go with Miami, and BC. Then the Virginia state legislature stepped in and squelched VT ( temporarily ) on behalf of their state flagship school, Univ. Vurginia. Note, that in all this timeline, Pitt was a bystander, and not really involved in serious negotiations at all. If they were, Pitt would more than likely got into the ACC before BC got the invite. Pitt was actually a Plaintiff in the BE orchestrated lawsuit against the ACC's Swofford, Miami, BC. Perhaps you were not aware that Pitt was an initial Plaintiff in the ACC lawsuit. ( factually verifiable, by the way ). So no, BC did not replace Pitt in the intended move of BE schools to the ACC. This is simply untrue.