Wow, you must be down on Beamer, which I understand having watched PSU age with Paterno.
But VT is right up there with all the talent you guys grab in the Norfolk area.
I also agree that the old BE of Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and BC is roughly on par with what we are seeing out of Cincy, UCF, Houston and USF for that matter. The head to head records sort of prove it. Louisville has had two excellent BCS bowl wins, but other than that, no, they are not much further along than the teams I listed.