Dann
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I vote for Rumrunner to replace Warde
me 2 but i request that i get a position under him somewhere and that he makes sure the ad building is not a dry 1 on campus.
I vote for Rumrunner to replace Warde
besides the questionable numbers and assumptions, you are completely ignoring the Fox/YES/BTN angle.
besides the questionable numbers and assumptions, you are completely ignoring the Fox/YES/BTN angle.
besides the questionable numbers and assumptions, you are completely ignoring the Fox/YES/BTN angle.
so u think that Yes and FoxNews will get pulled until the b10N gets on? otherwise whats the pull?
What?wc/pk are also good markets we carry. wc is in the nyc dma but is pk? that may be a added bonus to the #'s.
Westchester County has 345,000 census households. Logically, if these households were polled as to their demand for uconn fb, mbb, wbb, hockey, etc., versus Rutgers'' sports, UConn would win hands down.
Additionally, those who live there understand that the northern ny suburbs and Connecticut news are often grouped together, and never with New Jersey.
See e.g., the local ABC affiliate, Channel 7, http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/channel?section=news/local/northern_suburbs&id=7099868
It is entitled:
"No. Suburbs and Conn. News"
Didn't really read the thread, but being from New Jersey, spending the first 18 years of my life less than a half hour away from Rutgers's main campus, I can say with some fair confidence that the only people in/from New Jersey who care about or watch Rutgers football (forget basketball, what a joke) with any kind of consistency are people who went to Rutgers. And even then, it's hardly like most Rutgers alum watch. A lot of people go to Rutgers because it's the cheap, in-state route to a degree and don't feel any kind of pride for or connection with the school, and thus could care less about the sports. So if Rutgers doesn't even really have a strong footing in NJ, how can they expect to reel in NY?
After my 4 years at UConn, I feel the polar opposite is true for Connecticut. It seems like it's kind of like Penn State where even if you don't end up attending, if you grow up in Pennsylvania, you grow up watching the games (because, let's be real, what else goes on in CT?). I've met people who go to Central, MCC, Southern, even Quinnipiac who are UConn fans.
I think the Big 10 is not taking any of this in to consideration and is going by population density and strictly by proxemics and wishful thinking.
Taking that in to consideration, it seems like, as has become a kind of consensus, our being beat by Rutgers has had more to do with ADs and school officials selling the schools than anything, and our side failed.
I grew up in New Jersey, attended Rutgers for my Undergradute degree and am currently a season ticket holder. My tailgate consists of a party of 10 and I'm the only alum.
To say "A lot of people go to Rutgers because it's the cheap, in-state route to a degree and don't feel any kind of pride for or connection with the school, and thus could care less about the sports." is outlandish. -I also grew up in NJ. It is completely true. In fact one of my best friends brother is currently playing for RU. He has stated more than once that once his bro graduates he will never root for Rutgers football again.
Consider the Rutgers football games attendance on record, averaging over 49K (12% increase from last year). Yes, Rutgers and UConn had the same crappy schedule this year. - Congrats. Impressive attendance. Your program has done a nice job of generating buzz and with the stadium renovations it was great timing.
Consider Rutgers road attendance as second best in the Conference (behind Louisiville). - Ugh, link? I'm going to go ahead and say you pulled that out of your ass.
Consider Nate Silver's WSJ Sept. 2011 article breaking out college football fans in the NYC TV marketplace. - Your school is the only of the top 5 located in NYC TV market place. Consider your fans are from NJ not NY or NYC, but being from NJ makes significant inroads in the NYC Demographics despite the fact NY doesn't give a hoot about Rutgers football from my experiences as well.
Consider Bill Nielson backing up Silver's article based on his data collected. - No idea what your talking about, but if its stating you have fans in NJ and thus have good penetration in the NYC demo the homeless harmonicaman in Hartford could tell me and I'd believe him.
Consider 57K current Undergraduate and Graduate students this year and an Alumni base that is growing. Consider a student section that packed in 11K - 12K per game except for the Army game this year. -Again Congrats. Your attendance was strong and having an on campus easily accessible stadium helps that.
Coming from a Pro Sports area, College sports is followed by students and alumni who identify with their University and its no different at Rutgers, except for the fact that the Rutgers family is growing due to sheer size. In addition, there are many locals in Central and Northern Jersey who are attending and following and its backed up by TV ratings over the past 6 years including an ESPNU rating for the Rutgers - Arkansas game with the largest NYC market rating for an ESPNU game (certainly not national rating).
I find most people that express your opinion without any evidence either was not admitted to Rutgers or decided not to attend for various other reasons. -i got a near full ride to Rutgers and my sister played volleyball there. I agree with almost everything the other poster said I guess I fall into the category of decided not to attend.
1 national championship the first one. There was only supposed to be one game in 1869 and Rutgers won. We had a rematch for fun against princeton. It's recognized by the NCAA. Hence the claimed NC, since we were 1 of 2 teams. Also one Big East conference championship in football.What I don't understand is why RU fans continue to pump themselves up. Your in the B1G now and our fans are obviously jealous and upset that your team was chosen over ours. Instead of talking about your program, you now have a chance to actually become bigtime. Instead of harping on all the perceived advantages of your location and not your football record, go win important football games for a change. You can start by beating VPI.
I'm sorry, but I am tired of Rutgers fans. 0 conference championships in 100 billion years of football. Being born on 3rd base and finally scoring after all these years. Congrats on going to the B1G hoping an OOC rivalry game is established between the two of us, but I do not expect it.
Again Princeton can try and claim, but the history of those games was that there was only supposed to be one game, and we won it. Princeton wanted a rematch on their soil because they didn't feel it fair. Regardless even still we are co-national champions and it counts because there was no one else. 1 NC 1 Big East championship.Oh sure if you ignore the 1869 shared National Championship that Wikipedia has bestowed on Rutgers.
Although they do mention that some think Princeton was the sole National Champion because they outscored Rutgers 12 goals to 6.
Sure they never won the Big East but those Middle Atlantic Conference championships can keep you warm at night.
What I don't understand is why RU fans continue to pump themselves up. Your in the B1G now and our fans are obviously jealous and upset that your team was chosen over ours. Instead of talking about your program, you now have a chance to actually become bigtime. Instead of harping on all the perceived advantages of your location and not your football record, go win important football games for a change. You can start by beating VPI.
I'm sorry, but I am tired of Rutgers fans. 0 conference championships in 100 billion years of football. Being born on 3rd base and finally scoring after all these years. Congrats on going to the B1G hoping an OOC rivalry game is established between the two of us, but I do not expect it.
Again Princeton can try and claim, but the history of those games was that there was only supposed to be one game, and we won it. Princeton wanted a rematch on their soil because they didn't feel it fair. Regardless even still we are co-national champions and it counts because there was no one else. 1 NC 1 Big East championship.
That wasn't even rugby.Um congrats for winning a rugby game 150 years ago. Pretty sweet.