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Message: [QUOTE="Ricker, post: 2003082, member: 1245"] I have no first hand opinions about the issues being raised, BUT, today's Wall St Journal has an extensive article about Jimmy Brown and his work with inner city gangs, street toughs, and inner city convicts, etc. My take away from his comments is that these kids should not be perceived as 'victims' of their environment, they are victims of their own bad choices and should be accountable for those choices. The bad life choices are often made for reasonable reasons, (such as the 'gang' being the desired 'family' when there is a terrible home life). He evidently feels that it is up to their self determination to find their way out, but that society has a role to teach them how to make better life decisions, what to do with education, and to lay the groundwork for economic opportunity, etc. Obviously, this whole issue is complex, but you might want to read this article for his take. [I][URL="http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-"]www.wsj.com/articles/an-[/URL][B]nfl[/B]-[B]legend[/B]-[B]trump-and-americas[/B]-[B]gangs[/B]-1484956591[/I] [/QUOTE]