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Message: [QUOTE="Hunt for 7, post: 4885189, member: 12414"] Good to see that the tone is more of a debate than an insult. I was also thinking about your numbers. Which I thank you for researching. I wonder if there is a way to research wins related to bids. The data you provided is interesting but it got me thinking why I would have had such an opinion on how unsuccessful the big10 was in the tournament. My theory is that if you break down wins by bids it would be a clearer indicator of tournament success. And it more than likely still illustrate that my that my opinion was wrong and that the big10 success in the tourney was similar to other conferences. As [USER=11505]@giddyup[/USER] noted it seems they get 8 bids a year. So I guess the real metric is what are they doing with those bids on a micro level. You seem good with stats perhaps you know if that data is out there but I will look. [/QUOTE]