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Message: [QUOTE="JordyG, post: 4296507, member: 6819"] I have, and yes although similar, they are different. Knight studied the Princeton offense extensively as well, and made alterations to suit his style. When you look at Bobby's offense it looks far more like Carril's than Iba's, in tempo and the amount of screening and movement. And again, Geno does not use down screens back to the high guard some much,or post cuts. Knight, unlike Geno, hardly if ever work off the elbow, used a chin offense, used pistol variations, high screens (although more than the others), or the 23 keep off the high screen. He rather used the vertical and horizontal screens more. Geno's offense has far more (far more) influences from Harry's (hence Carril's) offense and the Princeton than Bobby's. Bobby worked a lot inside the nail. Geno likes to work outside the nail. That's Princeton. More, although Iba used a motion offense, his methodical, ball control style with its weaving offense and dribble drives looks absolutely nothing like Geno's. So that absolutely precludes Bobby from studying the Princeton offense? Geno never coached under Perrata, yet took much from his offense, as well as the innovator Carril, whom he also never coached under. You might want to look at Geno's old interviews where he speaks about his influences. [/QUOTE]