WVU board saying Rutgers and Louisville to the Big 12 deal going down

[Rumrunner]

Take it for what it's worth, but there's some smoke out there. Same on twitter.

If true, this will bring some finality to expansion, for better or worse.

 

[Waquoit]

Not to worry. Sue's got this.

 

[Dann]

this is a good thing.

 

[Excalibur]

this is a good thing.

How, exactly?

 

[businesslawyer]

First of all, if the WVU board tells me it's sunny I'm grabbing my umbrella.

But, on the off chance it's true, why would that be a good thing for us?

 

[ConnHuskBask]

In what alternate univverse is losing the only original BE football team and our top rival, and one of the best remaining basketball&football program in Louisville a good thing?

 

[Dann]

How, exactly?

becuase the thread was started by a ru poster. when was the last time a ru poster had the right info on conf expansion/where ruty is going????

 

[AJC88]

where on twitter? can you post a link to the wvu board? something? anything? Bueller?

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

The one positive thing I could see here is this is a move by the Big 12 to get WVU early by more or less colluding to kill Big East football now. Basically, they tell the ACC, you take these teams, we'll take these teams, no one will be left, and we'll all get our desired teams sooner. In this scenario, if the Big 12 takes UL and RU, the ACC takes us and probably ND. The outliers seem to become Cincy and USF, I have trouble seeing the ACC really wanting either, maybe Cincinnati if ND balks at joining. If it can be worked out that those two then merge into the merged MWC-CUSA, and the five new Big East teams join that league, everything could be quashed and done with, and there won't be anymore ridiculous lawsuits.

That said, I can't find anything on Twitter about this. In fact, the only relevant tweet I could find after multiple searches was this: https://twitter.com/#!/ScoutTexas/status/155370889712648192 Which is a ridiculous tweet, considering it links to a post by one of our guys on the Texas board asking if they'd like to have us.

 

[Dann]

where on twitter? can you post a link to the wvu board? something? anything? Bueller?

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=4582&t=8559412

 

[Rumrunner]

The WVU board has its share of loonies and them some. They also have a dog in the hunt because they want the BE to implode. It's the Blue/Gold board.

As far-fetched as Rutgers to the Big 12 is, if BYU is a no go, Rutgers might be its only option. Little chance that putative BE schools SMU or Houston get an invite. If RU is talking Big 12 I'm sure Herbst knows about it.

 

[alexd]

Check out the supposed RU fan that posted it on the WVU Conf. Realignment board. His last post was 2 months ago with the exact same info. That he was "told" that LVille and RU are next and it's "just a matter of when". I wouldn't bet the farm. Also, his screen name makes him out to be an RU fan. Why is he only posting on the WVU board? Again, as was mentioned here, you've got posters on the WVU board who, at this point, just want to see nothing less than the destruction of the BE.

 

[scdono]

Take it for what it's worth, but there's some smoke out there. Same on twitter.

If true, this will bring some finality to expansion, for better or worse.

Why do you need to post this crap?

 

[Rumrunner]

If all that was posted here was noncrap, then what a lonely place this would be.

As far as Rutgers and Louisville leaving for the Big 12 as causing the destruction of the Big East, so long as Notre Dame can keep its independence the BE will live.

Why do you need to post this crap?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The only way this is a positive is if it forces the ACC to move on Rutgers and we get to tag along. Otherwise this is bad news.

That said, i don't believe it.

 

[justinslot]

Check out the supposed RU fan that posted it on the WVU Conf. Realignment board. His last post was 2 months ago with the exact same info. That he was "told" that LVille and RU are next and it's "just a matter of when". I wouldn't bet the farm. Also, his screen name makes him out to be an RU fan. Why is he only posting on the WVU board? Again, as was mentioned here, you've got posters on the WVU board who, at this point, just want to see nothing less than the destruction of the BE.

Yeah, I'm a Rutgers fan (lurking here on occasion) and I've never heard of that screen name. I think it's just WVU fans trolling themselves.

 

[husky10]

I don't see it. The only way B-12 schools buy into this is if it ensured the destruction of the BE in time to get WVU there next year. Who says that even if the ACC goes on to take UCONN and ND that USF Cinn. and the BB schools wouldnt hold everyone to the 27 month rule? Needless to say not going to happen

 

[Adios]

Interesting post there:


If Louisville & Rutgers join the Big 12, here are the sagarin ranking comparisons for the 3 biggest sports:


FOOTBALL
1. SEC - 31.64
2. Big 12 - 31.83
3. Big East - 48.38
4. Big Ten - 49.08
5. PAC-12 - 49.42
6. ACC - 64.79

ACC
23. Florida State
27. Virginia Tech
32. Clemson
52. Miami
54. North Carolina
56. Georgia Tech
57. NC State
69. Pittsburgh
71. Virginia
73. Wake Forest
86. Syracuse
90. Boston College
104. Maryland
113. Duke
AVG - 64.79

BIG EAST
9. Boise State
15. Houston
30. Cincinnati
51. SMU
59. South Florida
70. San Diego State
76. Connecticut
77. Central Florida
AVG - 48.38

BIG TEN
8. Wisconsin
11. Michigan
18. Michigan State
25. Nebraska
28. Penn State
45. Iowa
49. Ohio State
55. Illinois
58. Northwestern
65. Purdue
88. Minnesota
139. Indiana
AVG - 49.08

BIG 12
3. Oklahoma State
4. Oklahoma
13. Baylor
17. Texas
19. Kansas State
20. TCU
22. West Virginia
36. Rutgers
43. Iowa State
53. Texas Tech
61. Louisville
91. Kansas
AVG - 31.83

PAC-12
5. Oregon
7. Stanford
12. Southern Cal
38. California
39. Utah
41. Arizona State
44. Washington
64. Arizona
66. UCLA
83. Washington State
87. Oregon State
107. Colorado
AVG - 49.42

SEC
1. Alabama
2. LSU
6. Arkansas
10. South Carolina
14. Texas A&M
16. Missouri
21. Georgia
29. Florida
31. Mississippi State
33. Auburn
42. Vanderbilt
50. Tennessee
85. Kentucky
103. Mississippi
AVG - 31.64


MENS BASKETBALL
1. Big Ten - 49.83
2. Big 12 - 68.33
3. SEC - 80.07
4. ACC - 82.29
5. Big East - 95.07
6. PAC-12 - 113.58

ACC
1. Syracuse
7. Duke
8. North Carolina
24. Virginia
54. Virginia Tech
61. Florida State
68. Miami
70. NC State
105. Pittsburgh
113. Georgia Tech
122. Clemson
130. Maryland
139. Wake Forest
278. Boston College
AVG - 82.29

BIG EAST
13. Georgetown
19. Marquette
21. Seton Hall
31. Connecticut
60. Cincinnati
83. Notre Dame
87. Central Florida
107. Villanova
114. Providence
121. South Florida
141. DePaul
164. St. John's
177. Houston
193. SMU
AVG - 95.07

BIG TEN
3. Indiana
4. Michigan State
5. Ohio State
16. Wisconsin
26. Michigan
28. Purdue
29. Illinois
45. Northwestern
67. Minnesota
119. Iowa
120. Nebraska
136. Penn State
AVG - 49.83

BIG 12
9. Kansas
10. Baylor
12. Kansas St
25. West Virginia
33. Louisville
44. Texas
52. Iowa State
73. Oklahoma
98. Oklahoma State
116. Rutgers
151. TCU
197. Texas Tech
AVG - 68.33

PAC-12
23. California
38. Stanford
62. Arizona
80. Oregon State
85. Washington
90. Colorado
95. Oregon
100. UCLA
128. Washington State
169. Southern Cal
194. Arizona State
299. Utah
AVG - 113.58

SEC
2. Kentucky
6. Missouri
14. Alabama
34. Florida
42. Vanderbilt
51. Mississippi State
64. LSU
82. Arkansas
89. Mississippi
123. Georgia
135. Tennessee
156. South Carolina
158. Texas A&M
165. Auburn
AVG - 80.07


WOMENS BASKETBALL1. Big 12 - 37.08
2. SEC - 58.50
3. PAC-12 - 65.42
4. Big Ten - 65.50
5. ACC - 76.36
6. Big East - 96.36

ACC
6. Maryland
7. Duke
9. Miami
13. Georgia Tech
33. Virginia
39. North Carolina
42. Florida State
54. NC State
65. Syracuse
66. Wake Forest
161. Pittsburgh
165. Boston College
177. Virginia Tech
232. Clemson
AVG - 76.36

BIG EAST
2. Notre Dame
3. Connecticut
26. DePaul
28. Georgetown
36. Villanova
46. St. John's
71. Marquette
78. Cincinnati
92. South Florida
112. Providence
119. Seton Hall
190. SMU
221. Central Florida
325. Houston
AVG - 96.36

BIG TEN
10. Ohio State
15. Nebraska
18. Penn State
23. Michigan
32. Purdue
48. Michigan State
56. Iowa
70. Northwestern
73. Minnesota
101. Illinois
136. Wisconsin
204. Indiana
AVG - 65.50

BIG 12
1. Baylor
12. Rutgers
17. Texas Tech
21. Louisville
22. Kansas State
27. Texas
29. Oklahoma State
31. West Virginia
35. Oklahoma
41. Kansas
52. Iowa State
157. TCU
AVG - 37.08

PAC-12
4. Stanford
34. Southern Cal
37. California
44. Washington State
57. Colorado
59. UCLA
61. Arizona
63. Arizona State
75. Oregon State
86. Utah
110. Washington
155. Oregon
AVG - 65.42

SEC
5. Tennessee
11. Kentucky
16. Texas A&M
20. LSU
24. South Carolina
25. Georgia
38. Vanderbilt
49. Arkansas
53. Florida
80. Missouri
90. Auburn
105. Mississippi State
133. Alabama
170. Mississippi
AVG - 58.50


As I've been saying, the Big 12 > the ACC.

 

[AJC88]

As I've been saying, the Big 12 > the ACC.

I'm not sure that people are arguing the B12 is worse than the ACC in sports, at worst they are comparable in basketball and lightyears ahead in football. The problem with the B12 is the same problem with the Big East, STABILITY. OU wanted P12, and will again in a few years, and Texas is a premadonna and several members have left the conference because of them.
While people keep talking about the ACC being ripe for picking by other conferences, I have to disagree. No ACC team is going B12, the academics don't line up. While people keep saying that football money powers everything, a few million extra in football money is nothing compared to grants that schools get (often associated with conference affilitiation.) FSU's president laid this out pretty clearly.
So, while I'd much rather play Texas and Oklahoma over Clemson and FSU, I'd prefer not to be dealing with defections from the conference again in a few years if we do leave the Big East.

 

[Adios]

If the Big 12 can get Notre Dame to come into the conference, I am sure Texas would be appeased and stability would be established. It may be in the best interests of Notre Dame to head south given the growing Latino Catholic population. Might as well call ND the "Fightin' Latinos" one day.

 

[IMind]

If the Big 12 can get Notre Dame to come into the conference, I am sure Texas would be appeased and stability would be established. It may be in the best interests of Notre Dame to head south given the growing Latino Catholic population. Might as well call ND the "Fightin' Latinos" one day.

This is the least likely scenario in my mind... It's either the B1G or the ACC if the Big East becomes untenable. The stupid thing for the ACC is that all it might take for the Big East to finally give up the ghost and become very unattractive to Notre Dame is to grab UConn... but it seems like a gamble they just don't want to take. I think mainly because of the fact that Notre Dame might go to the B1G if they ACC does that.

 

[SAMCRO]

If the Big 12 can get Notre Dame to come into the conference, I am sure Texas would be appeased and stability would be established.

If the Queen had a Co#% she'd be the King.

 

[Fishy]

The is no chance that Notre Dame is going to park themselves in the Big 12.

It will never, ever happen.

The Big 12 will almost certainly add Louisville and they'll exist happily until the PAC 12 and Texas get over their differences.

 

[Adios]

If the Queen had a Co#% she'd be the King.

She'd be a hermaphrodite. If she looked like a girl, I am assuming she'd still be a queen.

Whatever the deal, all eyes are on ND. They are probably sitting back right now, sipping their tea.

 

[Rumrunner]

For those of you who follow message board rumor- mongering, a supposed KU insider who frequents the Louisville site wrote that he heard this same rumor over the weekend.

The normal realignment bottom feeders, Frankthetank and Greg Swaim think it will happen. The Thamels, McMurphys, Blevins, (yes even Chip"Deloss" Brown) et al are silent.