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Message: [QUOTE="superjohn, post: 5326474, member: 1522"] Most people have no clue about any of this stuff. I mean we had a PGA golfer say the other day he overdosed on creatine to explain away his poor play and a lot of people believed him. Some of these people think creatine is a PED while at the same time they're celebrating people who are juiced to the gills thinking they're clean. I texted a couple of my huge sports fan buddies about the golfer overdosing on creatine and one of them said that's what McGwire in on. The other said isn't that what Sheffield was taking? It's hilarious how little people know about this stuff. I had friends in high school who played football and hockey who were taking gear along with a few guys who didn't play anything but loved lifting weights and being big...and it's significantly more common nowadays. I used to party with my friend at Central Connecticut State University and all his friends were on the football team, every single one of those guys was on steroids. People are in denial about their favorite athletes, actors, rappers etc. taking gear let alone the guys in their local gym who are on it and don't even look muscular. [/QUOTE]