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Message: [QUOTE="Huskyforlife, post: 3557617, member: 3403"] I didn't say everything went right. His father dying was obviously brutal, and he deserves all the respect for playing through that(and on fathers day sheesh). Supposedly he left the game of his own volition, so he doesn't get a pass for that. We don't even know what would've happened if the team stayed together. The gauntlet stuff doesn't appeal to me either, the league was worse back then. This is all to say he's definitely in the top 3 all time, but I would argue he had a lot working in his favor, compared to the other all time greats. [/QUOTE]