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Would a Big East Big 12 Merger Make Sense?

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Notice haven't heard this discuss in depth anywhere, but it is a possibility.

Looking at this from Fox point of view:
  • Both leagues' media rights expire around the same time.
  • It will create a pretty solid basketball conference that makes sense geographically.
  • It might entice Kansas since they get to play other basketball bluebloods like Uconn and Nova.
  • It will be a great way for Fox to keep all 8 B12 schools and Big East together in one media deal.
  • Not name overlapping media markets.
  • Uconn will be added as 9th football school. Remaining football schools can add one more football school like Cincy to make it 10 football schools and 10 basketball schools
The catholic 7 might not go for this, but it will be about money at end of the day. If Fox can pay enough to make this happen, anything is possible.
 
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Vowelguy said:
hell no.

the Catholics have no interest in getting in bed with another bunch of FB schools
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Depends if it increases their payout. It could bring about a Pac 12 Big East early season hoop deal also that would draw interest for Fox. It is like an arms race in college athletics. Two opposing sides. Brought on by ESPN. A disgrace.
 
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It doesn’t need to be a conference. Just make a scheduling alliance, add Cincy to the B12 and add UConn as football only.

However, I keep going back to thinking UConn needs to take a real run at becoming a very successful independent in football. A good UConn football team could make UConn some very good money in conjunction with a bigger Big East contract.
 
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It would be great for UCONN football which is why it won't happen. Good idea though. It would be a kick ass basketball league and fun football league. Travel for the non-revenue sports becomes a problem.

The C7 are about as forward thinking as a rear view mirror.
 
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UConn didn’t even make sense in the big12 even when UT and OU were still members never mind now and never mind the 10 bball only schools in the league. If the big12 back fills with some more eastern schools ie cincy, Memphis, USF, Ucf then I’d be interested in a scheduling agreement b/w the leagues that includes UConn football but that would benefit us exponentially more than any other BE school
 
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Hoophound said:
It doesn’t need to be a conference. Just make a scheduling alliance, add Cincy to the B12 and add UConn as football only.

However, I keep going back to thinking UConn needs to take a real run at becoming a very successful independent in football. A good UConn football team could make UConn some very good money in conjunction with a bigger Big East contract.
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I've never understood the scheduling alliances. What is that supposed to do exactly? Teams can already schedule other teams they want to play.
 
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Scheduling alliances allow for an organized, media friendly and attractive schedule to get hammered out well in advance for all of the schools involved.
 
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Hoophound said:
Scheduling alliances allow for an organized, media friendly and attractive schedule to get hammered out well in advance for all of the schools involved.
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Most schedules are made years in advance already. Teams are already lining up their out of conference games for the 2030s, and TV already helps facilitate the big games. Having crappy teams from one conference play crappy teams from another conference is worthless, so aside from forcing the top team in one dying conference to play the top team in another dying conference, I'm not sure how lucrative this path is. Surely someone would have thought of, and capitalized on, the big Kansas-Arizona football matchup if the money was there for the taking.
 
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Scheduling alliances like everything else are about money. They guarantee the networks some big games that will drive TV ratings. It makes sense as part of TV contract negotiations.
 
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I don’t care about a scheduling alliance but surely our fans should be able to see the value in knowing Baylor and Texas Tach are coming to the Rent vs MTSU and Charlotte and how that can help ratings and ticket sales.
 
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As conferences get supersized games with meaningful opponents will be hard to come by. Scheduling alliances give the scheduling benefits of a bigger conference without the revenue sharing of full merger.
 
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Occam's razor, the simplest answer is the best. The B12 should take UConn as a FB only. We'd get better in a hurry and our brand would add luster.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
Notice haven't heard this discuss in depth anywhere, but it is a possibility.

Looking at this from Fox point of view:
  • Both leagues' media rights expire around the same time.
  • It will create a pretty solid basketball conference that makes sense geographically.
  • It might entice Kansas since they get to play other basketball bluebloods like Uconn and Nova.
  • It will be a great way for Fox to keep all 8 B12 schools and Big East together in one media deal.
  • Not name overlapping media markets.
  • Uconn will be added as 9th football school. Remaining football schools can add one more football school like Cincy to make it 10 football schools and 10 basketball schools
The catholic 7 might not go for this, but it will be about money at end of the day. If Fox can pay enough to make this happen, anything is possible.
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hoopsfan22 said:
I've never understood the scheduling alliances. What is that supposed to do exactly? Teams can already schedule other teams they want to play.
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It is what the original Big East basketball league was really in its last years. A bunch of teams agreed to play each other over the course of the season. The “regular season champ” was barely even acknowledged. In fact for a number of years there was no official regular season champ. It wasn’t much different from way the old ECAC worked, just better teams and more of them in the year end tournament.
 
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If basketball paid enough to carry the weight of an additional mouth to feed...why wouldn't the ACC go for Kansas, UConn ?

To join Duke, Virginia, North Carolina....
 
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billybud said:
If basketball paid enough to carry the weight of an additional mouth to feed...why wouldn't the ACC go for Kansas, UConn ?

To join Duke, Virginia, North Carolina....
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Because it doesn't
 
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