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Message: [QUOTE="The Yakk, post: 5075218, member: 9988"] We are probably both right. I take your point about the Maras--since you dealt with them--but they could have hired someone better than Gettleman just by pure luck. Was it the Maras who wanted Daniel Jones in the first round? Who flushed OBJ down the toilet because they didn't like his hair? Who hired the string of incompetent coaches? Other successful teams have been able to overcome spectacularly dumb owners. Including the Giants themselves, when they had people like Parcells and Belichick and Coughlin running things. It took exactly one Gettleman press conference for most Giants fans to realize we were doomed for a generation. [/QUOTE]