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Recruits may be hesitant to commit to a conference with no history or they may be unsure of it's strength of schedule over four or five years.
The UCONN President doesn't seem to believe that academics and athletics have to work hand in hand.
Much of the academic progress is paid for by athletics,
but, only if they are reconized, I don't think she gets it.
 

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Recruits may be hesitant to commit to a conference with no history or they may be unsure of it's strength of schedule over four or five years.
The UCONN President doesn't seem to believe that academics and athletics have to work hand in hand.
Much of the academic progress is paid for by athletics,
but, only if they are reconized, I don't think she gets it.

hneffjr....IMO most top recruits have a long list of what matters to them most when choosing a college to attend and play basketball. Different recruits have different lists. Some recruits MAY place conference history on that list. NONE will place it above the opportunity to win a National Championship. UConn has won 8 N.C.s in recent history, including 2013's. That fact will trump AAC concerns for 99.9% of top level players. In addition, UConn schedules many of the best teams in non-conference games and plays several others in the NCAA tournament. (Last year, I believe they played 8 of the top 11 teams.)

Playing for Geno and staff, winning NCs and becoming better players are way ahead of any issue w/ the AAC. Just my opinion...;)
 

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The UCONN President doesn't seem to believe that academics and athletics have to work hand in hand.

I couldn't disagree more. Everything I have read about her indicates that she is strongly committed to academics and athletics.
 
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hneffjr....IMO most recruits have a long list of what matters to them most when choosing a college to attend and play basketball. Different recruits have different lists. Some recruits MAY place conference history on that list. NONE will place it above the opportunity to win a National Championship. UConn has won 8 N.C.s in recent history, including 2013's. That fact will trump AAC concerns for 99.9% of top level players. In addition, UConn schedules many of the best teams in non-conference games and plays several others in the NCAA tournament. (Last year, I believe they played 8 of the top 11 teams.)

Playing for Geno and staff, winning NCs and becoming better players are way ahead of any issue w/ the AAC. Just my opinion...;)




I hope you are right.
The recruiting this season and last has been good but not spectacular.
I do agree that all of the NCs are really important, and Geno is the best, but I think Conference affiliation is also a key.
M/O We are all on the same page in supporting the University, the Athlertes, and students, I just think that message of our in strength in Athletics and Academics has not gotten out, we are thought of differently right now.
 

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Recruits may be hesitant to commit to a conference with no history or they may be unsure of it's strength of schedule over four or five years.

Recruits don't commit to a conference. They commit to a college.

There is more history of winning at Uconn than any school not named Tennessee.

Conference affiliation is way at the bottom for recruits on their lists of where to go.
 
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The UCONN President doesn't seem to believe that academics and athletics have to work hand in hand
Much of the academic progress is paid for by athletics,
Lack of national caliber teams and poor conference affiliation explains why Harvard University is in the poorhouse. Further the fantastic sports enterprises at both MIT and CALTECH explains why those schools are at the top.

Seems to me Susan Herbst is focusing just fine.
(For what it's worth, it seems to be consistently reported that CD always stresses academics BEFORE athletics. If you want to play, you HAVE to get the schoolwork done. Does she have it all messed up?)
 

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I hope you are right.
The recruiting this season and last has been good but not spectacular.
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You can't just take in the last 2 years, KML, Stokes, Banks, next year Stewart, Tuck, Jefferson, that's a great 1st team and 6th man right there, not counting the class before. Those 6 are all capable of 25-30 minutes on most any WCBB team, doesn't leave much time for a new recruit, unless they are patient.
 
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I hope you are right.
The recruiting this season and last has been good but not spectacular.
I do agree that all of the NCs are really important, and Geno is the best, but I think Conference affiliation is also a key.
M/O We are all on the same page in supporting the University, the Athlertes, and students, I just think that message of our in strength in Athletics and Academics has not gotten out, we are thought of differently right now.
Am I hearing you right???? Last year we had arguably the best recruiting class in the history of women's college basketball. Three picks that were in everybody's top 8 listing. The remarkable Breanna Stewart, the highest rated PG ever in Mo Jefferson and Morgan Tuck who was a number one pick two years ago until an injury sidelined her and who has obviously recovered COMPLETELY. An amazing class and this incoming class. though a one player class, has the Parade player of the year so I would say it is quite good as you mentioned. How many classes has UConn or anyone else, for that matter, had as good as these two classes. Not a whole lot, I would venture. Our present recruiting class has two players in the top ten and a third, who is top 25 and maybe a lot better than her ratings. I think Geno and his staff are remarkable and if we top it off with that sweet Aja Wilson, WOW!
 

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Recruits may be hesitant to commit to a conference with no history or they may be unsure of it's strength of schedule over four or five years.
The UCONN President doesn't seem to believe that academics and athletics have to work hand in hand.
Much of the academic progress is paid for by athletics,
but, only if they are reconized, I don't think she gets it.


It will definitely have some impact on recruiting - to argue otherwise is just plain whistling past the graveyard.

But I have no idea how you go from that to deciding that UConn's president doesn't 'get it'.

Do you think she voluntarily stranded UConn in this backwater of a conference?
 

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It will definitely have some impact on recruiting - to argue otherwise is just plain whistling past the graveyard.

But I have no idea how you go from that to deciding that UConn's president doesn't 'get it'.

Do you think she voluntarily stranded UConn in this backwater of a conference?

Doesn't seem to be hurting Ollie. I guess it depends on how much "some" is.
 

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Doesn't seem to be hurting Ollie. I guess it depends on how much "some" is.


The AAC will drag on both men's and women's basketball and football - it is what it is.

We can't sell our conference to recruits anymore - convoluted mid-major tire fires are rarely selling points.

Geno can get in any door, Ollie can get in quite a few and the UConn name will open up even more. But there are going to be times when a recruit has to differentiate between a handful of favorites and will decide that a road games at Duke or North Carolina or even Clemson or Pitt is a tipping point when the alternative is Tulsa or Central Florida.
 

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I do believe it will have an affect and opposing coaches will beat it into recruits heads. However UConns OOC schedule is very strong and their reputation is tops at making the FF, NCs AA's and Pros. I have to wonder if we would have this thread if Wilson had committed or does commit. We have a terrific team and now with many top teams leaving we're concerned about the strength of our conference, and rightly so. Next years verbals/class is great. All we need is a big post player. Let face it UConn is loaded for the next 3 seasons and will be the favorite the next 3 seasons. If Wilson verbals we most likely will be the favorite for 4 years after that.

Duke MD ND UNC Stanford Tenn are all loading up so is there room for any other top players on their rosters, and will kids want to play for a team with rosters loaded with AAs and will playtime be a problem keeping them all and keeping them all happy. Or would they rather come to UConn where there are so many schollys available, and NC's lurking. The conference thing has an impact based on what a girl is looking for and I would think winning a NC is tops and UConn is in the best position for that.

The only thing opposing coaches have to argue is that UConn is in a weak conference as compared to only a couple of conferences. So if Im selling a recruit on coming to UConn and conference is a concern then I talk about OOC, and show the weak teams in opposing conferences. Don't forget. ND has been good the past couple of seasons and they went to the ACC. MD was good the past few seasons and they left the ACC. As far as track records in the FF. The ACC hasn't faired well in the past couple of seasons. Either has the SEC. Consistently in the FF has been UConn and Stanford. That tells me both have great coaching, and great recruiting.

Do you think the PAC 10 is a great conference? No but Tara gets top players and I know what your thinking Stanford is a great academic school. Well so is Duke and they haven't made the FF in quite some time.

Bottom line for me are these things. Much like Pat and Tara Genos reputation will allow UConn to get top players. The conference thing will have an impact and whether big or small inpact it will depend on the recruit. I also believe if Geno wanted some of those kids who have gone elsewhere he might have made a bigger push. We as fans don't know what he knows regarding recruits. If they aren't UConn caliber then perhaps he's not taking a chance on them. Why? Because if theyre not UConn material they could upset the apple cart. You need to trust he knows what he's doing. Theres a reason why we only have a roster of 9 and not 12 or 14. You must also remember those kids after 8 or 9 on most teams don't get much playtime and those kids usually aren't very happy campers.

So why did Diamond McDaniel Hammond Sierra Brianna and others go elsewhere? I have my thoughts and I think they're explained in this post as to why. Perhaps they wanted to be in a better conference, perhaps they wanted to be The Star, perhaps they wanted to be close to home, perhaps Geno didn't go after them hard enough for his own reasons. We all know that if your not willing to share the ball, with kids as good or better then you, and if your not UConn material where playtime has to be guaranteed, and if you want to be close to home and if all those are more important they playing for a team, within a team concept, and for a NC team then UConn just may be better off.

Be patient and those who are worth it will come. Right now we are only in the need for a top post player. There is only one out there. I think with the USA team games, and our last NC, and with our number 1 ranking in the polls and all the other stuff that makes UConn attractive if that dosnt get Wilson to come then there is nothing else we can do.
 

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The Big East when it started was not a particularly strong conference in women's basketball. If UConn can remain nationally at the top of the heap for a few years, that will give the AAC some breathing room and a chance to grow and improve. Not saying that it will happen, but I'm not going to write it off, either.
 

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All this talk about the AAC and its effects on recruiting made me think of two nagging questions... How long will UConn belong to the AAC? Where will UConn eventually land?

I really don't think UConn will stay with the AAC. I believe they will jump to a major conference in the next two years.
 

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Conference alignment probably has a fair amount to do with football recruiting, but to pretend that the Big East ever represented the big time in CFB is crazy and to think it represented a better product than the AAC is pretty hard to imagine. And even in CFB the coach and school have a lot more to do with the end results of recruiting than the conference - the SEC is TOP DOG, but what exactly happened with Kentucky or Auburn?
In men's and women's basketball with the promise of the tournament at the end of each year conference affiliation is much more secondary. Coaching, school, current players and location are all much more likely to be the determining factor. In MBB - can coach get me my big payday and will he highlight my game, with WBB, can he develop me and can I win championships far outweigh the conference schedule.
I am sure some coaches will try just about any line with recruits and with some recruits and some families some of that non-program specific noise may work, but at the level Geno is recruiting and with his reported recruiting style, players that are affected by those tactics wouldn't be getting offers anyway.
 

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The AAC will drag on both men's and women's basketball and football - it is what it is.

We can't sell our conference to recruits anymore - convoluted mid-major tire fires are rarely selling points.

Geno can get in any door, Ollie can get in quite a few and the UConn name will open up even more. But there are going to be times when a recruit has to differentiate between a handful of favorites and will decide that a road games at Duke or North Carolina or even Clemson or Pitt is a tipping point when the alternative is Tulsa or Central Florida.
I agree. There will be a recruit that will choose another team because of the conference. Maybe even two.

The impact will be minimal.
 
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Since everyone is throwing their predictions into the ring, I may as well add mine. Over the next 5 years, top recruits will flock to AAC teams, making AAC the power conference in women's basketball.
 
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The Big East when it started was not a particularly strong conference in women's basketball. If UConn can remain nationally at the top of the heap for a few years, that will give the AAC some breathing room and a chance to grow and improve. Not saying that it will happen, but I'm not going to write it off, either.
As you said, the Big East in women's basketball was nothing until UConn made a name for itself nationally in the early 90's and after 1995, recruits really started noticing the Big East. Well, after a time, other Big East coaches decided to recruit "you get to play UConn" and as a result there was now occasionally Georgetown and Villanova and Syracuse and St. Johns that managed to put a Top 10 or 15 team together. Even Louisville has climbed to new heights. It's not impossible that the remaining Big East teams might actually start declining because there is no longer "you get to play UConn" happening for them. Why is it crazy to think that the teams in our new league might also want to put their money where their mouth is and upping their recruiting, partially by investing in their programs and partly by using the Huskies as an indicator that they intend to compete nationally. Meanwhile, I'm sure Geno will schedule to beat the band and as long as there's a chance to play our Huskies, we'll get good or great OOC opponents.
 

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The AAC will drag on both men's and women's basketball and football - it is what it is.

We can't sell our conference to recruits anymore - convoluted mid-major tire fires are rarely selling points.

Geno can get in any door, Ollie can get in quite a few and the UConn name will open up even more. But there are going to be times when a recruit has to differentiate between a handful of favorites and will decide that a road games at Duke or North Carolina or even Clemson or Pitt is a tipping point when the alternative is Tulsa or Central Florida.
I do believe it will have an affect and opposing coaches will beat it into recruits heads. However UConns OOC schedule is very strong and their reputation is tops at making the FF, NCs AA's and Pros. I have to wonder if we would have this thread if Wilson had committed or does commit. We have a terrific team and now with many top teams leaving we're concerned about the strength of our conference, and rightly so. Next years verbals/class is great. All we need is a big post player. Let face it UConn is loaded for the next 3 seasons and will be the favorite the next 3 seasons. If Wilson verbals we most likely will be the favorite for 4 years after that.

Duke MD ND UNC Stanford Tenn are all loading up so is there room for any other top players on their rosters, and will kids want to play for a team with rosters loaded with AAs and will playtime be a problem keeping them all and keeping them all happy. Or would they rather come to UConn where there are so many schollys available, and NC's lurking. The conference thing has an impact based on what a girl is looking for and I would think winning a NC is tops and UConn is in the best position for that.

The only thing opposing coaches have to argue is that UConn is in a weak conference as compared to only a couple of conferences. So if Im selling a recruit on coming to UConn and conference is a concern then I talk about OOC, and show the weak teams in opposing conferences. Don't forget. ND has been good the past couple of seasons and they went to the ACC. MD was good the past few seasons and they left the ACC. As far as track records in the FF. The ACC hasn't faired well in the past couple of seasons. Either has the SEC. Consistently in the FF has been UConn and Stanford. That tells me both have great coaching, and great recruiting.

Do you think the PAC 10 is a great conference? No but Tara gets top players and I know what your thinking Stanford is a great academic school. Well so is Duke and they haven't made the FF in quite some time.

Bottom line for me are these things. Much like Pat and Tara Genos reputation will allow UConn to get top players. The conference thing will have an impact and whether big or small inpact it will depend on the recruit. I also believe if Geno wanted some of those kids who have gone elsewhere he might have made a bigger push. We as fans don't know what he knows regarding recruits. If they aren't UConn caliber then perhaps he's not taking a chance on them. Why? Because if theyre not UConn material they could upset the apple cart. You need to trust he knows what he's doing. Theres a reason why we only have a roster of 9 and not 12 or 14. You must also remember those kids after 8 or 9 on most teams don't get much playtime and those kids usually aren't very happy campers.

So why did Diamond McDaniel Hammond Sierra Brianna and others go elsewhere? I have my thoughts and I think they're explained in this post as to why. Perhaps they wanted to be in a better conference, perhaps they wanted to be The Star, perhaps they wanted to be close to home, perhaps Geno didn't go after them hard enough for his own reasons. We all know that if your not willing to share the ball, with kids as good or better then you, and if your not UConn material where playtime has to be guaranteed, and if you want to be close to home and if all those are more important they playing for a team, within a team concept, and for a NC team then UConn just may be better off.

Be patient and those who are worth it will come. Right now we are only in the need for a top post player. There is only one out there. I think with the USA team games, and our last NC, and with our number 1 ranking in the polls and all the other stuff that makes UConn attractive if that dosnt get Wilson to come then there is nothing else we can do.
Of your many great points- the PAC 10 is no great conference, even though Cal and UCLA have been getting great recruits the past few years! So it is improving.
 

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All this talk about the AAC and its effects on recruiting made me think of two nagging questions... How long will UConn belong to the AAC? Where will UConn eventually land?

I really don't think UConn will stay with the AAC. I believe they will jump to a major conference in the next two years.
I was originally hoping the ACC myself, but now I just have a feeling it will be the Big 10 or 12 now? It is just a feeling.
 

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Am I hearing you right???? Last year we had arguably the best recruiting class in the history of women's college basketball. Three picks that were in everybody's top 8 listing. The remarkable Breanna Stewart, the highest rated PG ever in Mo Jefferson and Morgan Tuck who was a number one pick two years ago until an injury sidelined her and who has obviously recovered COMPLETELY. An amazing class and this incoming class. though a one player class, has the Parade player of the year so I would say it is quite good as you mentioned. How many classes has UConn or anyone else, for that matter, had as good as these two classes. Not a whole lot, I would venture. Our present recruiting class has two players in the top ten and a third, who is top 25 and maybe a lot better than her ratings. I think Geno and his staff are remarkable and if we top it off with that sweet Aja Wilson, WOW!
Yea, what buzzy said.
 

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As long as UConn has Geno, has the SNY deal, and has to figure out where to hang new national championship banners and new names for the Huskies of Honor wall, kids will keep committing to the Huskies.

The conference may be awful, but UConn continues to offer things that are unique in WCBB.

And the phenomenal OOC schedule doesn't hurt.
 
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As you said, the Big East in women's basketball was nothing until UConn made a name for itself nationally in the early 90's and after 1995, recruits really started noticing the Big East. Well, after a time, other Big East coaches decided to recruit "you get to play UConn" and as a result there was now occasionally Georgetown and Villanova and Syracuse and St. Johns that managed to put a Top 10 or 15 team together. Even Louisville has climbed to new heights. It's not impossible that the remaining Big East teams might actually start declining because there is no longer "you get to play UConn" happening for them. Why is it crazy to think that the teams in our new league might also want to put their money where their mouth is and upping their recruiting, partially by investing in their programs and partly by using the Huskies as an indicator that they intend to compete nationally. Meanwhile, I'm sure Geno will schedule to beat the band and as long as there's a chance to play our Huskies, we'll get good or great OOC opponents.
 
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