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Wild Dreams: The BE Could Kill the ACC

Stinger92860 said:
Never happens. They won’t walk away from the cash flow and the alumni would not allow it.
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People who post stuff like this don’t know many Northwestern alumni. For the most part, Northwestern and Vanderbilt alumni could not give a crap about being in a league with Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia. The vast majority of them would rather play universities they consider peers.

And as others have pointed out, the endowments at those schools make the small profit they make from basketball and to a lesser extent football, basically irrelevant.

What those schools do care about is the perception of becoming just another athletic department with a university attached. The elite schools need to convince families to pay $100,000/year to attend, and a football game against Mississippi State does not help that pitch at all.
 
KryHavok said:
I believe the presumption is that those teams would be snatched up by the BIG12.
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I think Cuse has a chance to get the Big 12. They would give them a foothold in NY
 
buddy said:
I think Cuse has a chance to get the Big 12. They would give them a foothold in NY
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Which NY? Would they give a foothold in NYC?
 
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buddy said:
They have a lot of alumni in NYC.
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It's an interesting and relevant question. For my money, Uconn is the better option. Uconn is a slightly larger school, slightly better academics, closer to NYC and better athletic department.

Syracuse claims to have more NYC-based alumni (something like 50k to 20k to Uconn), but I haven't seen any objective numbers and, honestly, those are both peanuts to the total population of NYC. What matters more is brand and fans.
 
Patrick79 said:
It's an interesting and relevant question. For my money, Uconn is the better option. Uconn is a slightly larger school, slightly better academics, closer to NYC and better athletic department.

Syracuse claims to have more NYC-based alumni (something like 50k to 20k to Uconn), but I haven't seen any objective numbers and, honestly, those are both peanuts to the total population of NYC. What matters more is brand and fans.
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I live in NYC. UConn alum. More Cuse swag seen here. They have a brand and they have the fans and they have decent football. As disgusting as that all is, I believe if it comes to a point where they need a lifeline they will get it. If Big 12 added Ville and Pitt, they would add Cuse as well, and get the support of Cuse dominated ESPN.
 
SU has many alumni in NYC because a large chunk of them moved back home and live with their parents, not that I would blame them. I'd be curious to know how many new yorkers are choosing SUNY Stony Brook over SU now. Stony Brook is better by almost all measures and you don't have to drive 4 hours to get there.
 
buddy said:
I live in NYC. UConn alum. More Cuse swag seen here. They have a brand and they have the fans and they have decent football. As disgusting as that all is, I believe if it comes to a point where they need a lifeline they will get it. If Big 12 added Ville and Pitt, they would add Cuse as well, and get the support of Cuse dominated ESPN.
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They had some really bad football teams not too long ago. They could use a rivalry with UConn.
 
Bongo Fury said:
They had some really bad football teams not too long ago. They could use a rivalry with UConn.
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I remember UConn thrashing them in the Dome one time, but they have been marginally better of late.
 
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Syracuse has a large alumni base in and around NYC, but it doesn't carry the NYC market by any means. Syracuse is not even close to NYC. UConn is much closer. The B1G actually has 3 schools that are geographically closer to NYC than Syracuse is.................Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State.
 
buddy said:
I'm pleasantly surprised. Please forward to ACC offices.
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And remind Brett Yormark.

Brett Yormark in July 2023:

"We also aren't just a football conference. On the basketball front, we've got to bring the product to all the right places, and New York is the place for it. I want us to have a big moment in New York."
 
3/23/2023

IRVING, TX - In advance of the Kansas State Wildcats’ Sweet 16 appearance tonight at Madison Square Garden, the Big 12 announced today a partnership with Rucker Park, home of the world-famous playground court considered the birthplace of streetball. The partnership will see the Big 12 operate youth clinics at Rucker Park for local youth in grades six and below. The clinics will be held across multiple days and will be led by head coaches from both men’s and women’s Big 12 basketball programs. Participating coaches will be named at a later date.

Additionally, the Big 12 Conference will host men’s and women’s summer exhibition games at Rucker Park, pending NCAA approval. The Big 12 is also planning a variety of entertainment enhancements and community engagements throughout the Conference’s Rucker Park activations.

“Rucker Park is one of the great landmarks in basketball and is a cultural icon – we are excited to be able to bring Big 12 Basketball to its court,” said Commissioner Brett Yormark. “We are committed to growing the Conference’s footprint in a variety of ways, and we want kids across New York City to experience Big 12 Basketball first-hand.”
 
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