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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 2147544, member: 168"] You realize that Tubby inherited a team wholesale that had been to back to back championship games, that was in a stable conference, that was not under recruiting sanctions, and was not banned from the NCAAs, right? He inherited a juggernaut from Pitino and didn't have to do anything keep keep that train chugging. KO lost Drummond, Lamb, Oriahki, and Roscoe before he did anything, and had to essentially recruit Boat, Shabazz, and Daniels to a team that couldn't play in any postseason. Apples to airplanes here. KO deserves criticism. If next year is a disaster (we may define that in different ways, to be fair), my attitude right now will be different. But Tom Crean inherited something relatively akin to KO (scholarship reductions, etc.) but still had the B10 to sell, and got 9 years to be mediocre. KO won a title. [/QUOTE]