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Message: [QUOTE="Hans Sprungfeld, post: 2142994, member: 181"] First off, I think hell is a fictional place without a basketball team or a coach who is still alive. My comment was to disparage those who would report such news and those who would believe it. As to what I would or would not have done to survive (and, yes, they'd have been after me), after reading "Man's Search for Meaning," I don't know. I doubt it would have been pretty or justifying healthy pride. I'm offering no defense of awful stuff, but instead acknowledging that there is so much that I don't know, that I tend to discount self-righteous self-certainty on complex issues where I'm not an observer. [/QUOTE]