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Message: [QUOTE="UcMiami, post: 3918343, member: 199"] Yeah, but I think most coaches know pretty soon which players are going to leave - within the first couple of months. I don't think it is often a surprise to them. They may actually be more surprised by a few who stay longer than a year or actually stay all 4. And that means they are not that far behind in recruiting. Coaches are probably more surprised when some players leave early for the pros - Muffet certainly was caught off guard by Jewell I think. [/QUOTE]