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Message: [QUOTE="RichZ, post: 4293124, member: 534"] I'd put Hilton at the top, and add Hasheem to the list as well. Odd that they're all bigs. The guards are a different story.... The ones that ended great, started pretty danged good, too. Kemba went from a good PG to an all timer. Ricky was the best defensive guard we've ever had, but he was an elite defensive presence when he started. Ray evolved from a slasher to a near automatic three-point shooter, but he was top shelf from day one. Same with Ben. [/QUOTE]