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Message: [QUOTE="MU in MKE, post: 4067901, member: 9984"] So to sum up: 1. You admit you don't know much about CBB and only watch in March and final fours are your only criteria for what makes a good program (this time) 2. You refuse to listen to facts and go only on your gut feeling. Hence your dislike of my providing real world data and factual information such as Buzz Williams departure from MU and hard analytics like actual wins or team metrics regarding what a good team or conference actually is 3. You are losing the argument so you pick a new argument, in this case which programs aren't elite right now, despite that not being the topic of the thread. Which, if that's the conversation you want to have, cool here it is: I agree, Marquette should have fired Wojo earlier. Ask most MU fans and they'd say the same thing. The AD kept him around because he ran a clean program and recruited at a high level which always kept their hopes up and enough fans in the seats... to the long term detriment of the program. But Texas must not be a good program either, since they kept Shaka for 6 years despite a similar tourney record. What a mediocre school, am I right? Quit being such a Debbie downer on every conference related thread. Can you just give us an opinion on which program, if you had to pick one, is most likely to step up? That's kinda what the original question was. I'm curious what your answer would be. [/QUOTE]