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Message: [QUOTE="MU in MKE, post: 4067575, member: 9984"] At this point, I'm not really sure what you define as a "major" program anymore as we've pretty much exhausted all your moving goalposts. I think we're down to Nova, UConn, Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, and Gonzaga as the only major programs in existence anymore? That being said, I really think we've made progress here now that you've agreed the BE is a top 4 conference at minimum. And I totally agree with you, being a "major" program requires both coaching and facilities (I'd also include recruiting, but that comes from a combination of the first two). That is why I believe Creighton and Marquette can step up to consistently run at the top of the conference. Creighton has the coach and are working to build their resources in order to have the facilities. Meanwhile, Marquette has the facilities, but needs the long term coach to make it happen. Buzz didn't "leave for greener pastures" other than that he was told to clean up his program or the AD was going to show him those pastures himself... so Buzz left instead of doing that. Wojo just never got traction and only did well [I]just[/I] enough to stick around for 7 years (aka, almost the entire time the "new" BE existed). So I guess we're in agreement, Creighton and Marquette have the most potential! :cool: Listen, it’s great you have an opinion about the BE. You’re entitled to that. But when you openly comment about it and you’re proven wrong time and time again, you should probably just stop. Follow my lead in posting, I don’t comment on threads specific to this year’s team because I don’t know as much about them as 90% of the posters here. Instead, I sit back and I read the threads and I learn something and keep my posts to mostly OT threads and BE threads. I'm not trying to be harsh here, but maybe you should follow suit on any discussion about the conference or anything CBB related and sit back and learn while keeping your posts to subjects you know more about like FB? [/QUOTE]

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