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Message: [QUOTE="freescooter, post: 4067326, member: 1023"] None of these teams, not a single one, is more than marginally relevant on the national scene. Other than Villanova, nobody is picking a NEWBIE to win it all come March. It is fine. A solid league. But Marquette has had 50 years to become a national power. Our Marquette fanboy loves to cite all sorts of statistics to buttress his case. But how many Final Fours have they been to since the NEWBIE started? How many Elite 8s or Sweet 16s? Yet somehow they are going to step up and be the next Duke. They had a brief run 2011-13, in the real Big East, but what happened? Buzz left for greener pastures. And as I said, you need to be able to keep your coach. Because unless you’re Duke or UNC or Kansas, replacing him is a crapshoot. Even there it is, but they won’t wait 5 years for results. Becoming a major program from the NEWBIE is hard. It is hard from any conference, but when your conference schedule is littered with average teams, Providence, Seton Hall, Butler, DePaul* and the rest it is even more difficult. Here’s what I’m talking about. In the NEWBIE you can be ranked in the top 20-25 and you’ll likely be first or second place in the league. Basically it’s a league of programs who consider being ranked and getting to the Tournament to be success. National Programs want to win, not just show up. Of course it doesn’t mean they will win. Gonzaga shows that. But they build teams year to year with that in mind. * Caution. May contain basketball like product. [/QUOTE]

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