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Message: [QUOTE="freescooter, post: 4067192, member: 1023"] Marquette, Creighton…even Xavier and Butler. If it is so easy, how come Marquette hasnt won a title since 1977 and hasn’t been to an Elite 8 in the NEWBIE era, or a Final Four in about 20 years. They have had nearly fifty years to re-establish themselves as a major program. Seems like they might have done a little better than 1 Final Four 30 years after their title. All those fans and everything. Butler has been fine nothing more since losing to UConn in the Final Four. Steven’s was a brilliant coach. He left and they returned to being fine. Creighton is a limited program. They are fine. They got to the Sweet 16 for the first time since 1974, which is good I guess. Xavier has been to the Elite 8 3 times, but widely spaced. Lost all to a lower seed. And their coach left for a higher paying job at the scummiest program in the country, that was banned from the tournament when he arrived. Becoming a major national program requires more than having a high budget and lots of fans. You need a top coach, facilities and the coach needs to stay for the long term. If Jim Calhoun had left after the dream season, how many think UConn would have become UConn? Anyone? Bueller? If Jay Wright left Villanova after going to the Final Four in 2009, do they win in 2016 and 2018? Probably not In both cases. If UConn returns to the Final Four and a P5 program comes calling , you think Hurley isn’t going to listen? Mr “I want to be an NBA coach?” Please. He might not go to Ol’ Miss, but he’d go to the Big 10 or an ACC program in a heartbeat. Because they would absolutely pay him more than we can. The NEWBIE is a solid conference. Lots of pretty good teams but only 1 elite one. Nobody is challenging for national championships, though. None have with @ny consistency except Villanova. It ain’t the ACC or the Big or the SEC. Its a step below that. [/QUOTE]

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