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Based on last year alone, who played more specifically at the PG Position

  • Jalen Gaffney

    Votes: 31 38.3%

  • Andre Jackson

    Votes: 50 61.7%
  • Total voters
    81
  • Poll closed .
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Got into a friendly debate with a buddy of mine and was hoping some UConn diehards could help settle the debate.
 
Can someone with access to the stats post them? Like @auror said... this information is available and quantifiable.

I would guess overall it's about the same. But by February/March was skewed well in favor of Jackson.
 
Can we change this question to when on the court, who controlled the ball for a higher percentage of the time?

Jalen Gaffney played more PG this season, based on the depth chart. He was also invisible on the floor. So the guy who played the "2nd most" PG minutes was virtually invisible.

But Andre handled the ball much much more, and with much more success. So whatever answer makes you feel better inside is the one you should go with.
 
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HuskyFich said:
Can we change this question to when on the court, who controlled the ball for a higher percentage of the time?

Jalen Gaffney played more PG this season, based on the depth chart. He was also invisible on the floor. So the guy who played the "2nd most" PG minutes was virtually invisible.

But Andre handled the ball much much more, and with much more success. So whatever answer makes you feel better inside is the one you should go with.
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Just to be clear, our original discussion was who handled the ball more, not who played PG more. And if we're all being honest, Andre handled the ball for far more minutes than Gaffney was even on the court.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Just to be clear, our original discussion was who handled the ball more, not who played PG more. And if we're all being honest, Andre handled the ball for far more minutes than Gaffney was even on the court.
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welllll i was talking about running the point for sure "Gaffney played way less for sure, but Gaffney ran the point last year even with Cole in the game at times. Jackson handled the ball in transition a lot, but running the point is a different thing altogether"

seems like you were talking about handling the ball tho "Jackson handled the ball a hell of a lot more and a hell of a lot better than Gaffney last year, so maybe we pull back a bit on calling other folks morons."

Upon re-evaluation could def have contributed to the length of the debate at hand
 
BIIIG said:
welllll i was talking about running the point for sure "Gaffney played way less for sure, but Gaffney ran the point last year even with Cole in the game at times. Jackson handled the ball in transition a lot, but running the point is a different thing altogether"

seems like you were talking about handling the ball tho "Jackson handled the ball a hell of a lot more and a hell of a lot better than Gaffney last year, so maybe we pull back a bit on calling other folks morons."

Upon re-evaluation could def have contributed to the length of the debate at hand
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Jackson definitely played more point than Gaffney as well. Just trying to clarify your original assertion since it has changed a few times.
 
starting to sweat it out i see, hearing that other ppl agree gaffney played more at point
 
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"Gaffney played way less for sure, but Gaffney ran the point last year even with Cole in the game at times. Jackson handled the ball in transition a lot, but running the point is a different thing altogether"

"completely agree. I think he'll bring the ball up in transition and dictate the pace often almost in a similar way Draymond Green does with the Warriors, but I don't see him being the defacto Point Guard out there, or the sole ball handler in the lineup too often"

I was def talking specifically the PG position, but like i suspected from the beginning, you "read one line of the post and just say "no" rather than reading the whole thing and actually talking about the points at hand."
 
i genuinely don't know what some on this board consider the "point guard position" to be.

if you watched the second half of the season closely, jackson clearly played a substantial amount of minutes initiating offense with the ball in his hand, even when cole was on the floor. to me, that's a point guard.

he might not have guarded the opposing team's point guard all of the time, but he clearly played that position on offense a fair amount. gaffney barely played, and was off ball a lot of the time that he did.
 
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@BIIIG, we argue about anything and everything on the Yard. So feel free. But your question has been argued ad nauseum already AND it doesn't matter. How about we have some forward looking conversations instead of re-hashing something that has no bearing on next years team. If your question is who played PG dribbling with his back to the basket the most then Gaffs your guy.
 
husky429 said:
You had a tantrum and made a poll to try to prove a point... now you don't like the results, so it's because no one understands you. What must it be like to live in your world? Wowzers.
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I'd venture to guess that his is a dark place and if the windshield wiper on his belly button doesn't work...he can't see the world for what it truly is. Again, just a guess .
 
QDOG5 said:
@BIIIG, we argue about anything and everything on the Yard. So feel free. But your question has been argued ad nauseum already AND it doesn't matter. How about we have some forward looking conversations instead of re-hashing something that has no bearing on next years team. If your question is who played PG dribbling with his back to the basket the most then Gaffs your guy.
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well said hahahaha, thought it was pretty obvious my 60% comment was a joke as i had been proven wrong by the voters

@UCSouth that was a weird ass comment
 
Maybe I'll try to find some stats later when I'm home. Because I somehow got dragged into the middle of this argument by saying we need guards from the transfer portal
 
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There's not a clear answer, because unlike baseball there aren't clear positions. You're on the court or you're not. We all get to define "point guard" our own way. Is it who guards the other team's point? Is it who brings the ball up court? Who really starts the offense? Who gets the ball to create when the shot clock goes down to 4 seconds?

I don't think AJ played the point for us barely at all last year, because he really only played one of those roles -- walking it upcourt. If he and Gaffney were in together, it was Gaffney guarding the other team's point guard. But in the absence of a true definition, there can't be a true answer.
 
I really didn't know what positions any of the players were slotted at this past season. AJ handled the ball a lot in transition because he grabbed a ton of the rebounds and Dan Hurley wanted the team to run. I never felt we had a true PG anytime last year as I looked to RJ as SG in a PG role. Gaffney did look more like he wanted to be a PG when he was on the floor. No way was AJ ever slotted as the PG with his main objective to bring the ball from an inbound under the opposing teams basket, bring it up the court, set up the offense and control tempo - he has one tempo and that is fast forward.
I really don't see a true PG in the future under Dan Hurley - he is looking for scorers because he wants an up tempo team and that is why the team struggles in the half court offense. I love the running game but I am terrified when UConn has to play a slower style when it can't dictate tempo. UConn teams have seldom been half court offensive teams - they were able to play some effective half court when T Brown, KEA, KO, Hobbs were pure PGs - even Marcus Williams, who I consider the best passer at UConn was not all that effective in the 1/2 court.
My take is that UConn needs guards next season - period
 
Who was running the offense when Cole was running off screens set to get him open 3pt shots?

AJ had a role in running point. Included making entree passed to Adama in the post.
 
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