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Message: [QUOTE="JoePgh, post: 4058329, member: 1131"] This seems to be based on the very outdated premise that Liv is still a beanpole and a relative weakling compared to most pro centers. There may have been some truth in that when she was a freshman, but if you look at her now, you can see that her physique is very developed. Physical strength is not her problem. She proved that in the NCAA tournament by rebounding successfully against very good opponents, including Nalyssa Smith of Baylor in the Elite Eight game. Liv does have a problem with scoring, and while that is certainly a BIG issue, it is probably a solvable one, if not in her senior year of college then in her first year or two in the W. She does not have any problem with rebounding (at both ends), passing, leaping, or running the floor. If she were also a good scorer, she would be a lottery pick. To see what level of competition she has to match to find a place in the WNBA as a backup center, I checked box scores for 2021 to see who the backup center is on all 12 teams in the league. Here are the results: Ct Sun: Beatrice Mompremier (behind Jonquel Jones) Chi Sky: Azura Stevens / Stef Dolson (behind Astou Ndour) LV Aces: Kiah Stokes (behind Liz Cambage) Min Lynx: Natalie Achonwa (behind Sylvia Fowles) Dal Wings: Charli Collier (behind Kaila Thornton) Phx Mercury: Kia Vaughan (behind Brittney Griner) Wash Mystics: Theresa Plaisance (behind Hines-Allen) Atl Dream: Tiana Hawkins (behind Elizabeth Williams) Ind Fever: Jantel Lavender (behind Tieara McGowan) LA Sparks: Lauren Cox (behind Amanda Zahui-B) Seattle Storm: Ezi Magbegor (behind Mercedes Russell) NY Liberty: Kiley Shook (behind Natasha Howard) Do you really think that Liv is not competitive with most of the players on this list of backup centers? I think she is, and that she has a higher ceiling than most of them. [/QUOTE]

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