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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 3430884, member: 1220"] I think some players efforts are tied to how well they are playing. The perfect example is the Sparks Candice Parker. When her game is on she will give a lot of effort, but when she is not on she just seems to coast. What you want are players who play harder when the going is tougher. The old adage " When the going gets tough- the tough get going. I think that is a quality you are born with. I have seen too many very talented and skilled players who lack that aspect. Their skills and height, athleticism etc. only will take them so far. That desire to not lose takes them much farther. Or even if you are losing and have no hope of winning you still suck it up and go down with more fight than if you are winning. [/QUOTE]