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Message: [QUOTE="ClifSpliffy, post: 4079480, member: 9260"] 'Lucky for the dog the owner held him back with a chain.' my sentiment, exactly. i've seen little girls and oldtimers, armed with the right attitude concerning dogs (u talking to me? check yourself before u wreck yourself...') handle great big woofers with just a look, while some grown mangiants recoil at the first snarl or bark from a chiwawa. dogs aren't stupid, dopey mebbe, but not stupid. u can see in their eyes the calculation they make when someone gives some blowback to their [I]act. [/I]other than an immediate danger posed to them or their pack, they can display a mental calculation kind of like, 'hmmm, if she kicks me here, im gonna have a headache, or chew funny for a couple of days. iffn she kicks me there, then i'll be walking funny for a few days. ok, person, im just woofin, i don't need any hassle from you. mebbe i got this wrong, let's just be pals and call it a day, ok?' dogs are great. they're also 'leninists' -'if you strike mush, push on! if you strike steel, pull back!' or mebbe it was stalin who said that. [/QUOTE]