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Message: [QUOTE="JoePgh, post: 4041525, member: 1131"] I wish that SVCBeercats had commented in more detail on the numbers that he displayed, so we could understand more clearly what he views as a jump or a non-jump from year to year. In Olivia's case (since so much commentary seems to focus on her), I do see a steady improvement in her A/TO ratio from year to year in the numbers above, which gives credibility to the idea that playing as a high-post distributor might make a lot of sense for her. Her points per minute also improved every year, but it certainly needs to improve more. Another area that needs improvement for both Liv and Aaliyah is fouls per minute: Liv fouls at a rate of one every 10 minutes or nearly 4 per 40 minutes, and Aaliyah's fouling rate is similar. No wonder they have difficulty staying on the floor. Rebounding is another oddity. Based on the eye test, I would have said (and I think most Boneyarders would have agreed with me) that Aaliyah is a more aggressive and more successful rebounder than Liv, but the statistics tell another story. Liv got a rebound every 3.4 minutes, but Aaliyah grabbed a rebound only every 3.85 minutes. Not what I would have expected. SVCBeercats, what specific numbers are you looking at to support the conclusions that you stated? [/QUOTE]