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Message: [QUOTE="JoePgh, post: 3633798, member: 1131"] I recall reading a few years ago that in the summer, it is permissible for position coaches to work with players on individual skills related to their position, but anything related to team offense or team defense is off limits until October 15. When the team went to Europe a few years ago and had to play games there, my recollection is that there was a special exemption (granted to all teams who do foreign travel in the summer) to allow team offense and defense to be prepared for those games. But if they hadn't been traveling and playing other teams, it wouldn't have been allowed. I also recall (since that was the year that the Walker et. al class were freshmen) that Geno complained that when they started "real" practice in October, the freshmen had forgotten everything that they had learned in the summer. He also expressed impatience with their learning pace during the season. That led to the false impression that "Geno never plays freshmen" -- it was largely true of that class, but that was a unique situation. I don't foresee the same issues with this year's freshmen, or next year's. [/QUOTE]