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Message: [QUOTE="gars44, post: 2350950, member: 766"] All true. Bribes were not needed. Every program that makes it to the top of college football had to get there by cheating, and they have all had cheating scandals. It's a measure of desire. No desire = no success. This is more a rite of passage than anything else. You want to get into the gang? Shoot someone. Now you're in. This is not going to hurt Louisville long term or the ACC either. It's just another renegade program that will ultimately be successful in the world of big time college football. In 10 years, when they're in the NC game, the announcers will be gushing all over themselves at the the remarkable program turnaround, how the great tradition of college football is bigger than any one program. "Stadium's packed, let's get ready for great game today. We'll be right back after commercial." Don't anybody kid yourself. [/QUOTE]