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Message: [QUOTE="JMick, post: 4834216, member: 6467"] Eh. I reffed youth football for a bit and have a lot of friends who umpired for baseball in the summers during college. Some of these refs should not have been doing games. There were guys who would show up drunk. There were guys who would talk about grudges they had against coaches. They shouldn't have jobs. It's a fairytale to believe the people doing youth sports are doing it for the kids. 90% of them are doing it for money and 10% are doing it to help their ego. If you're getting paid for something, you're a professional [/QUOTE]