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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 3484211, member: 1414"] Massachusetts is pretty much shut down. Has been since late last week. 20,000 unemployment claims here. There are no good choices. None. Shutting things down will cause irreparable short and long term damage to tens of millions of people's lives in the United States. Many of them the youngest. And most of the elderly will live. That's where we are. It truly sucks. This isn't half measures. This is extreme measures already. The only outcome we can hope for is a vaccine within the next 2-3 weeks. Beyond that we are in uncharted waters. The city of Philadelphia just said it's not arresting people anymore for burglary, theft, etc. If you don't think that's a recipe for wide scale public violence I don't know what is. [/QUOTE]