what about preparing people for life?

[willie99]

it's all about some silly thing they call the APR in some circles, falls in the same category as the RPI or BCS IMHO, it's all B$.

How about taking young inner-city kids and preparing them to succeed in life? How about instilling a work ethic that enables virtually every scholarship kid to play professional basketball somewhere? How about instilling a value system in them that keeps them out of trouble once they leave the school? (with one notable exception that used such skills in the wrong way, committing a white collar crime )

How about taking kids that were nowhere on anybody's draft radar and molding them into 1st round picks?

how about the "maker of men" making men?

 

[willie99]

The APR?

1) self reported, youse think everybody else was honest? I'd bet my life on no way in hell
2) a school likes UNC admits academic fraud yet suffers no consequences because their self reported APR clears them
3) a kid transfers from a school, that somehow means the remaining student athletes are worse academically than they were before the transfer
4) many of the big money schools have majors only scholarship athletes can take, I'm sure that's giving them a sound education
5) the APR system will make schools force kids to avoid difficult classes and majors, once again shooting their intentions in the foot (they are that stupid)
6) kids at UK don't even have to take classes in the sping semester and there are no consequences, more APR brilliance at work

 

[willie99]

Jim Calhoun's biggest problem?

taking chances on inner-city kids that he believed and they believed had a chance to do something special on the court, maybe make a life for themselves. When they don't get the playing time they want or they they decide it's too much work, they quit and or they transfer.

the APR will ascertain those kids get a lot less chances in life, let them rot in their inner-city neighborhoods. How can a top program take a chance on some kid that's not a sure thing? Far too much downside, let them go play for a Detroit Univ, or maybe a Niagara. Let their life's dreams die. (BTW: I'm not knocking any school academically here, I'm merely suggesting that it's far less likely to play professionally if you attend one of those schools)

It's much easier to fill the backside of the roster with academically solid kids that won't mind sitting on the bench. Especially since that'll help their APR.

Like most bureaucrats, the NCAA morons like Emmett hurt the people they think they're helping.

at the end of the day, Jim Calhoun has done more for more people and more for his community than every media member that throws stones at him combined. In the real world, that's a whole lot more important than anything the haters have ever done.

 

[Tenspro2002]

JC did an incredible job getting guys to mature and preparing them for basketball careers.

I don't think he cared that much about what they did in the classroom and, stubborn as he is, didn't care about meeting the NCAA's BS criteria (until it was too late).

 

[Waquoit]

I don't think he cared that much about what they did in the classroom...

That's libel. His best 2 players flunked off his first year and he said it wasn't going to happen again. And it didn't until 20 seasons later when Marcus Williams screwed up.

 

[intlzncster]

it's all about some silly thing they call the APR in some circles, falls in the same category as the RPI or BCS IMHO, it's all B$.

How about taking young inner-city kids and preparing them to succeed in life? How about instilling a work ethic that enables virtually every scholarship kid to play professional basketball somewhere? How about instilling a value system in them that keeps them out of trouble once they leave the school? (with one notable exception that used such skills in the wrong way, committing a white collar crime )

Two actually. Mike Hayes got busted selling a pound of marijuana.

I'd argue against Tate though. I think that was probably a case of naivete more than anything.

 

[JellyBean]

Yeah coach Calhoun cared what the kids did on and off campus, especially when it came down to academics. Because he knew that whatever happened, it was going to be a reflection on him as a coach and leader of men. Plus when I got there in 1988, UConn started, at coach Calhoun's persistent urging after Cliff Robinson, Phil Gamble, and a host of other players, were falling through the academic cracks, the Counseling Program for Intercollegiate Athletes (CPIA). The CPIA was basically a tutoring program on steroids. Trust me, coach cared about academics.

 

[BUConn10]

it's all about some silly thing they call the APR in some circles, falls in the same category as the RPI or BCS IMHO, it's all B$.

How about taking young inner-city kids and preparing them to succeed in life? How about instilling a work ethic that enables virtually every scholarship kid to play professional basketball somewhere? How about instilling a value system in them that keeps them out of trouble once they leave the school? (with one notable exception that used such skills in the wrong way, committing a white collar crime )

How about taking kids that were nowhere on anybody's draft radar and molding them into 1st round picks?

how about the "maker of men" making men?

The problem here is that you assume non-UConn fans care about this one bit. Its all about talking when it comes to a winning program that isn't your favorite team, and no team gets that more than the Huskies. I am willing to bet that roughly 10% of people who use the APR BS as ammo to talk trash about UConn have no real idea how the APR works, what it measures, or the circumstances that took place behind it. Explain it to them, yet they will just go to a different message board and repeat the original sentiment. Its the nature of the game, and no one is hated more than a winner.

 

[pj]

Like most bureaucrats, the NCAA morons like Emmett hurt the people they think they're helping.

Don't be naive. Emmert isn't trying to help student-athletes and he knows very well he's not helping them. He has probably never looked into the matter enough to know if he's harming them; that would require caring. He cares about two things only, himself and his employer. For himself, he gets pleasure from taking revenge on UConn for whatever personal grudges he developed while here. For his employer, he gets a propaganda machine (the APR) that creates the illusion that the NCAA cares about academics. Like all magicians, to distract attention from what's really going on, you have to create something showy and fake. That's what the APR is.

 

[intlzncster]

The problem here is that you assume non-UConn fans care about this one bit. Its all about talking when it comes to a winning program that isn't your favorite team, and no team gets that more than the Huskies. I am willing to bet that roughly 10% of people who use the APR BS as ammo to talk trash about UConn have no real idea how the APR works, what it measures, or the circumstances that took place behind it. Explain it to them, yet they will just go to a different message board and repeat the original sentiment. Its the nature of the game, and no one is hated more than a winner.

Welcome to being a Patriots fan.

 

[J-dog]

We all know the APR mess was a bunch of BS… I'm done with it…

Other fan bases will continue to point out our APR shortcomings to try & downplay UConn's accomplishments in a feeble attempt to feel better about their own programs…

Bottom-line is UConn is the top college hoop program in the land & they all wish they were...