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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 5317975, member: 488"] This is why I think the Big 12 is so well-positioned long-term. It's carved out an identity as the natural backstop for schools that either aren't quite prestigious enough for the B1G or not quite good enough for the SEC, yet still have proud histories with large, passionate fan bases. Virginia Tech and NC State, along with about a dozen other programs either already in the Big 12 or eventually headed there, fit that description to a tee. Much like the Big East, the modern Big 12 has long sought to define itself as a coalition of likeminded, blue-collar institutions that share the distinct goal of trying to fend off extinction in a landscape increasingly dominated by the P2. Contrast its model to the jumbled mess that is the ACC, and I think it might just pull it off. [/QUOTE]