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Message: [QUOTE="caw, post: 4873053, member: 563"] I was just disagreeing with Miami majorly overachieving. They did outplay their seed, but they were underseeded as a five and should have been a 3 or 4. A final four wasn't a major upset. They were good last year. Their problem this year stems solely from not replacing Wong and Miller. They were over-rated based on their run because they didn't replace a lot of their production. UNC was not good for most of the year in 2022 and majorly overachieved in the NCAAT as an 8 seed who basically played well for a month. They backslid last year. They were over-rated last year because they were never that good. [/QUOTE]