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Message: [QUOTE="Lefty2one, post: 2613744, member: 1001"] You have to look beyond wins and losses in a situation like this. First of all, Cronin's first four years were in the midst of a lethal stretch for the Big East. The conference was a killer then. Secondly, his teams trended upwards. I'm guessing he didn't have several of his best-rated recruits transfer out or have rumors swirling about his level of commitment to the program. I'd also guess that his teams didn't rank in the 340s when it came to various offensive statistics or make tons of questionable decisions with his in-game strategy. KO is going in the opposite direction; he's trending downwards and each season is uglier than the prior. What KO has done the last two years is nearing a crime against the sport. There is no time for more patience. The personnel and conference issues are a convenient excuse. He has been a dreadful coach. [/QUOTE]