WBCA Coaches All-Americans

[darrell]

 

[darrell]

Both Aaliyah Edwards and Lou Lopez-Senechal were named to the Honorable Mention list. Full list can be found here.

 

[Centerstream]

I understand that Ashley Joens was voted an AA last season, but in the games I watched her play this season, she didn't seem to be playing at an AA level. And I don't have anything against her because I would watch Iowa State games just to watch her play.

 

[The deacon]

I understand that Ashley Joens was voted an AA last season, but in the games I watched her play this season, she didn't seem to be playing at an AA level. And I don't have anything against her because I would watch Iowa State games just to watch her play.

I'd agree, Centerstream, although I saw Iowa State only two or three times this season. I believe if someone would argue for Aaliyah being an All-American, it would be in place of Joens.

 

[Centerstream]

I'd agree, Centerstream, although I saw Iowa State only two or three times this season. I believe if someone would argue for Aaliyah being an All-American, it would be in place of Joens.

Exactamundo

 

[bballnut90]

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Same as AP, just subbed in Joens for Miles. Hard to disagree with any decisions (besides maybe Joens over Miles). Well deserved honorees and I’m thrilled so many of them (5-7) will be back for another year in 2023-24, plus we’ll have Paige and Lee back too.

 

[CTtoSanDiego]

I thought Edwards had made a big step toward gaining AA at the South Carolina game... but she trailed off after that, tho she had a couple of good games... too bad... but there's always next year!

 

[donalddoowop]

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Same as AP, just subbed in Joens for Miles. Hard to disagree with any decisions (besides maybe Joens over Miles). Well deserved honorees and I’m thrilled so many of them (5-7) will be back for another year in 2023-24, plus we’ll have Paige and Lee back too.

Who is Lee?

 

[bballnut90]

Who is Lee?

Ayoka Lee, she plays for Kansas State and scored 61 in a game last year and was a 2nd Team AP All American.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

Joens is a good player but I’d think AE or Miles would be on the team ahead of her. Otherwise the list is spot on.

 

[donalddoowop]

Ayoka Lee, she plays for Kansas State and scored 61 in a game last year and was a 2nd Team AP All American.

Okay. When you said WE, I thought you were speaking of a UConn player. I have always liked Ayoka Lee and wished she played UConn.

 

[Iluvacc2]

Joens is a good player but I’d think AE or Miles would be on the team ahead of her. Otherwise the list is spot on.

Joens is definitely the odd woman out imo. Miles or Edwards would’ve been more worthy. I fear UConn’s Sweet 16 loss sealed Aaliyah’s fate.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

Joens is definitely the odd woman out imo. Miles or Edwards would’ve been more worthy. I fear UConn’s Sweet 16 loss sealed Aaliyah’s fate.

That's possible but Joens' team lost in the first round so unsure how much postseason success plays into it. As always reputation also plays a role. Edwards made an incredible leap this year and will likely continue to grow next year as well.

 

[Iluvacc2]

That's possible but Joens' team lost in the first round so unsure how much postseason success plays into it. As always reputation also plays a role. Edwards made an incredible leap this year and will likely continue to grow next year as well.

That makes it even more mind boggling to me

 

[Forego]

I'd agree, Centerstream, although I saw Iowa State only two or three times this season. I believe if someone would argue for Aaliyah being an All-American, it would be in place of Joens.

Seeing Iowa State two or three times is probably two or three times more than most of the AP voters watched them. With 10 on the first team and 42 honorable mentions you would have to watch hundreds of games spread across 4 time zones in addition to fulfilling your other job responsibilities to watch each of those players multiple times and grade them. Don’t sell your evaluation short.

 

[Centerstream]

Joens is definitely the odd woman out imo. Miles or Edwards would’ve been more worthy. I fear UConn’s Sweet 16 loss sealed Aaliyah’s fate.

Wasn't the voting done before the tournament started?

 

[Iluvacc2]

Wasn't the voting done before the tournament started?

I’m not sure

 

[Centerstream]

I’m not sure

The previously announced AA teams that were announced in the last couple of days all were voted on before the tournament, so I am guessing/assuming.

 

[Rowdy831]

I understand that Ashley Joens was voted an AA last season, but in the games I watched her play this season, she didn't seem to be playing at an AA level. And I don't have anything against her because I would watch Iowa State games just to watch her play.

That would be true of almost every player though. If you watch a handful of games you might not get the real picture of their value. UCONN has great players but all of them had some really bad games along the way too. I also think the bar is set higher for UCONN players so they have to be a little better to warrant AA status.

 

[Centerstream]

That would be true of almost every player though. If you watch a handful of games you might not get the real picture of their value. UCONN has great players but all of them had some really bad games along the way too. I also think the bar is set higher for UCONN players so they have to be a little better to warrant AA status.

And you think every voter watched every game of every player they voted for? I doubt it because the voters are coaches. So they are going to probably rely on players they coached against (maximum of 3 games+scouting videos?), box scores and highlight videos. As with most voting, they are nothing more than glorified popularity contests based on exposure from ESPN, other sports media outlets, etcetera.
So in my opinion, she didn't seem to be playing at the same level as in previous years. One reason could be the loss of Soares but that shouldn't have any effect on the voting.
Again, it is just my opinion and it cannot be wrong. IMO.

 

[Gordo]

I thought Edwards had made a big step toward gaining AA at the South Carolina game... but she trailed off after that, tho she had a couple of good games... too bad... but there's always next year!

Next season, assuming no injuries, there will be a log jam for AA among the team ... Paige, Azzi, Aaliyah and hopefully Caroline can return to form. Of course CD won't have a chance if she doesn't start. And for those that wish to argue that starting isn't important, therein is one one why it is. Regardless, it should be very interesting.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Wasn't the voting done before the tournament started?

Deadline for voting was March 8. Voting began about a week before then.