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Message: [QUOTE="azfan, post: 5123411, member: 7748"] While the thread is coaching I'm not sure that we've run that far a field as with the exception of the top 100 schools coaching is teaching. R1 institutions have become sprawling enterprises their scope goes far beyond teaching undergraduates. This sprawl in mission creep and involvement far beyond what were traditional educational boundaries is I think also reflected in their sports. In NAU and Grand Canyon sports are closer to what college athletics were 20 years ago than our ASU and the kitties. That is teaching is intertwined with competition for the Jacks and Lopes although both are very active with transfers and the transfer portal and have diminuous NIL involvement. As to faculty involvement in higher ed ranging from r1 to the community college level which is where I spent my career that is also changed tremendously. Particularly as the scope of higher ed has expanded beyond teaching that change scope has most certainly impacted the role that faculty play in the overall governance of the institution. I've always analyzed it in this way. Prior to 1960 as higher ed was involved primarily in education faculty played a critical role both in and out of the classroom. The dramatic changes in higher ed have certainly changed both the role of faculty and more importantly how faculty are engaged with an Enterprise that extends far beyond teaching and far beyond their disciplinary knowledge. [/QUOTE]