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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 4511780, member: 7492"] I think some eyes need to go watch the PAC12 and the "hard" defense that Arizona deploys at will with little consequence. Those refs are brutal, plus add in the announcing of Mary Murphy and Joan Bonvicini and man, just awful. As far as bad conferences, go take a look at the Big 12. I mean sure you have 4 fringe 16-30 ranking teams in Oklahoma, Iowa State, Texas and Baylor but that is not pretty basketball. Once Texas and Oklahoma leave, yuk! They add BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF which is the Big East opportunity to leap past this conference in esteem. We do need Georgetown, Xavier and PC to get coaches who up their OOC and win games though. [/QUOTE]