Warde Manuel

[JSM1970]

Maybe for Bama, Duke, UK or Ohio State. Not if you're buried in a dead end conference situation. Unless UConn finds a way out of this I won't think the AD has "overachieved."

Sometimes, just not up a good thing is a hell of an accomplishment.

 

[SAMCRO]

I thought he was expressly hired because he had strong relations with BC and could assist with us getting to a conference, possibly ACC since BC blocked UConn previously.

Genuine question, why did you think this was the reason he was hired?

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Genuine question, why did you think this was the reason he was hired?

In addition, does jsm1970 believe UCONN President Herbst and the Board of Trustees are omniscent? Or, perhaps they incorrectly believed Manuel had pictures of bcu's fr. leahy dancing naked with fat, pasty coeds, cherubs, etc., or had premonitions BCU would hire Manuel's fellow Michigan alum, Brad Bates, several months later than Manuel joining UCONN. Apparently not; at least no premonitions!

 

[JSM1970]

I said he does an acceptable job as an AD. I don't think he's done anything to suggest he's in the top 5% of his field. I think he looked inexperienced in that period when the ACC was considering a replacement for Maryland. The Louisville AD was actively petitioning and selling his University while Manuel was at a meaningless preseason Women's basketball tournament monitoring the situation. I'm not suggesting he could have changed that outcome whatsoever no matter how he behaved. I just don't know what to point to with him to say he's an elite AD.

In addition, does jsm1970 believe UCONN President Herbst and the Board of Trustees are omniscent? Or, perhaps they incorrectly believed Manuel had pictures of bcu's fr. leahy dancing naked with fat, pasty coeds, cherubs, etc., or had premonitions BCU would hire Manuel's fellow Michigan alum, Brad Bates, several months later than Manuel joining UCONN. Apparently not; at least no premonitions!

 

[Marty Jackson]

has anyone thought that this positive attention could get Warde an offer from another P5 school?

 

[Adios]

has anyone thought that this positive attention could get Warde an offer from another P5 school?

Of course it can. But at the same time, I am sure he knows this is a chance to make history.

 

[freescooter]

Genuine question, why did you think this was the reason he was hired?

He was hired for 1 reason and 1 reason only. He had a reputation in the NCAA and media as an APR turnaround guy. He got an award from somebody for it at Buffalo. The UConn BoT convinced themselves that hiring awards would correct the problem in the long term and get the ban lifted in the short term. I was told this by a former member of the Board who served on the selection committee. He was, though ill suited for the actual challenge he faced.

 

[Adios]

Well, if we're going to aim for the Big Ten, having an academically strong AD is not a bad idea.

Rest of it can come together as long as we hire the right coaches. Was the Cavanaugh hire not a solid one?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

WM wasn't hired for one reason only. While he did have a history with the then (not sure if he is still there) AD at BC (from their Michigan days), that was at best (and that would be a stretch) an ancillary benefit. While APR was a priority, there were many candidates who could have helped there and in reality, the prioritization of this within the school's leadership outside of the athletic department is how an issue there would be corrected. We )our school's leadership) wants to build something that would align with schools like Michigan (among others) where there is a marquee athletic department over many sports but also a student body that academically is among the best in the country with student athletes fully integrated into that student body. That he had spent significant time at Michigan and that he was on a track of career success helped tremendously.

Whether we (the fans base) realize it or not, whether we agree with the goals or not, the current leadership of this university has tremendous ambitions (if this was in place a decade earlier we would be golden today) and is working quite diligently at achieving these goals. Money is a serious constraint and our ability to get where we want to be will be very dependent on support (both financially and in attendance at sporting events) of our fans base and alumni base.

 

[freescooter]

FCF,
I agree with most of your post but what put Warde in the seat instead of one of the other candidates was his APR rep. Yes he had been at Michigan. Yes he had a good rep but apr was what distinguished him from others and landed him the job. Unfortunately, that was an easy fix and despite his addition it didn't get the ban lifted. And he was ill prepared for what was the actual challenge. He was ill equipt to do the inside and outside fighting needed to get us into the ACC. He came off poorly as an inept guy. He was like a general brought in to fight the last war.

 

[UConn Dan]

Some people seem to forget that we have devices called cell phones. If a face to face meeting needed to be had we also have boosters with private planes.

More importantly, Susan took the lead on expansion in September 2011 when Pendergast was our interim AD. She had established connections with the ACC. Per source, we had assurances if the ACC expanded again (with ND all-in) we would be number 16. She likely was heavily involved when Maryland left. But there was simply too much momentum from the football schools to add Louisville that there was nothing UConn admin or AD could do to overcome. Initial reports out of Tobacco Road had us as the leaders, we had their support, but they were in the minority. The end.

 

[sdhusky]

FCF,
I agree with most of your post but what put Warde in the seat instead of one of the other candidates was his APR rep. Yes he had been at Michigan. Yes he had a good rep but apr was what distinguished him from others and landed him the job. Unfortunately, that was an easy fix and despite his addition it didn't get the ban lifted. And he was ill prepared for what was the actual challenge. He was ill equipt to do the inside and outside fighting needed to get us into the ACC. He came off poorly as an inept guy. He was like a general brought in to fight the last war.

Are you still upset he hired Ollie?

I know you thought was a terrible decision.

 

[Pudge]

Crazy stuff.

Would RUTGERS (returning to a favorite subject of mine) ever have an Acclaimed Athletic Director.

At UConn, we expect this. We demand that ALL our programs fight for championships. Actually, I am pissed that Ray Reid hasn't won in November as much as I'd like. This is our BRAND. We put together top programs across lots of sports. Our Fanbase doesn't appreciate how good we are. This should be our key in CR. They should want a University - robust and supported by the legislature - that is growing & climbing. Not one that has more TVs in a geo region; but, is a freaking embarassment predictably fairly regular.

Warde Manuel has done a really good job. Now get us an upgrade.

 

[JSM1970]

I don't follow the praise for him, is it just he's better than Hathaway? The football program, the most important factor for P5 expansion, is at the lowest level of the last 15 years. If you want to give him credit for women's Field Hockey championships why shouldn't he be subject to criticisms too?

ECU, Cincy, UCF, etc. are in the same terrible league and aren't flat lining.

Crazy stuff.

Would RUTGERS (returning to a favorite subject of mine) ever have an Acclaimed Athletic Director.

At UConn, we expect this. We demand that ALL our programs fight for championships. Actually, I am pissed that Ray Reid hasn't won in November as much as I'd like. This is our BRAND. We put together top programs across lots of sports. Our Fanbase doesn't appreciate how good we are. This should be our key in CR. They should want a University - robust and supported by the legislature - that is growing & climbing. Not one that has more TVs in a geo region; but, is a freaking embarassment predictably fairly regular.

Warde Manuel has done a really good job. Now get us an upgrade.

 

[Hoophound]

I don't follow the praise for him, is it just he's better than Hathaway? The football program, the most important factor for P5 expansion, is at the lowest level of the last 15 years. If you want to give him credit for women's Field Hockey championships why shouldn't he be subject to criticisms too? ECU, Cincy, UCF, etc. are in the same terrible league and aren't flat lining.

The only involvement Warde has in where the football program is, is in the hiring of Diaco. After one year, we can't blame him for Diaco failing. As we all know, this year is big for Diaco. If the season is a disaster, we've got a problem. If we improve quite a bit, Diaco is a feather in Warde's cap.

 

[junglehusky]

The only involvement Warde has in where the football program is, is in the hiring of Diaco. After one year, we can't blame him for Diaco failing. As we all know, this year is big for Diaco. If the season is a disaster, we've got a problem. If we improve quite a bit, Diaco is a feather in Warde's cap.

Honestly it's longer term than that. But everyone feels the need to pass judgement ASAP.

 

[Hoophound]

Honestly it's longer term than that. But everyone feels the need to pass judgement ASAP.

I'm not sure it is longer term in my view. I'm just looking for the elimination of crazy talk and instances of mind boggling incompetence.

 

[Waquoit]

The only involvement Warde has in where the football program is, is in the hiring of Diaco.

Not true. He gave P a third year. Everyone knew that was doomed to failure. It cost us a precious year in our rebuild.

 

[freescooter]

Not true. He gave P a third year. Everyone knew that was doomed to failure. It cost us a precious year in our rebuild.

That's right. And he was in a perfect position to make a change as the new guy in town coming with an underperforming team. But like most things he has done he lacked the guts to make a decision until it was too late. He did it with Calhoun too when everyone but Warde seemed to know Calhoun would walk and stick him with Ollie (and I mean that in the sense that he would have no choice in his first major hire). But he let himself be put in that position by failing to force the issue. ACC we saw the same monitoring instead of taking action. He monitored Pasqualoni when everyone knew it was a growing disaster, monitored Calhoun and monitored the ACC.

 

[UConnfan4ever]

That's right. And he was in a perfect position to make a change as the new guy in town coming with an underperforming team. But like most things he has done he lacked the guts to make a decision until it was too late. He did it with Calhoun too when everyone but Warde seemed to know Calhoun would walk and stick him with Ollie (and I mean that in the sense that he would have no choice in his first major hire). But he let himself be put in that position by failing to force the issue. ACC we saw the same monitoring instead of taking action. He monitored Pasqualoni when everyone knew it was a growing disaster, monitored Calhoun and monitored the ACC.

Over and over and over. Everybody already knows your opinion of Warde. Please give it a rest!

 

[Sky ball]

Are you still upset he hired Ollie?

I know you thought was a terrible decision.

I am not sure he would have hired Ollie if not for JC calling it quits just before the season started. Ollie got the Interim position and did a very credible job making it almost impossible for Warde not to hire him.