Very interesting comments from SMU coach (merged threads)

[UcMiami]

Saw this posted on another board and found it very interesting:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...-in-her-retirement/ar-BBq0oTK?ocid=spartanntp

I think she is right in most regards, especially for sports that are generally money losing propositions for colleges.

And I saw this in my work environment as well through the years - both in interviewing job applicants and reviewing entry level employees. An general attitude that the paycheck only gets the worker in the door and if you actually want them to get something done they want more.

 

[iamcbs]

If that's the way she feels then she's making the right decision, times change. Athlete's aren't the same as they were 35 years ago, just as society isn't the same as it was. Society isn't either, Coach Rompola longs for time and situation that no longer exists, the game and the athletes have passed her by and it will serve her well to get out now. She's had a great run and now it's time to move on to the next phase of her life, good luck to her.

 

[HGN]

But she's got a good point..........Geno has alluded to it before as well.

 

[bags27]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...-in-her-retirement/ar-BBq0oTK?ocid=spartanntp

Sorry, can't seem to cut-and-paste the important parts, but it's a very good article.

Pretty much what Geno's been saying too. Of course, it's always hard to generalize about the present in relation to the past (which always seems to be a better time). Certainly players have changed, but younger coaches have grown up in this system and I guess accept it as the "new normal."

 

[CocoHusky]

An unnecessary parting shot by Coach Rompola IMO after 35 years. Take away the basketball or athletic aspect of this and the jest of her comment (kids today are more entitled) has been often repeated by every generation to describe the next. Is it true? Absolutely. But it is harmless & clearly collides with another adage of parents striving to provide more for their kids that their parents provided for them.

 

[HGN]

An unnecessary parting shot by Coach Rompola IMO after 35 years. Take away the basketball or athletic aspect of this and the jest of her comment (kids today are more entitled) has been often repeated by every generation to describe the next. Is it true? Absolutely. But it is harmless & clearly collides with another adage of parents striving to provide more for their kids that their parents provided for them.

Coco, I think she is looking at it more from a personal standpoint............My take is she has lost a few key recruits over the last few years. Maybe those recruits went the other way because the other school,( i.e., Texas ; Baylor) , promises to pay their athletes far more in stipend. And I suspect its hard to recruit against that in your own home State , especially when your home State is a current 'hot bed' with talented players. And if those plyers are looking at being in the FF , and possibly winning a NC , Texas and Baylor has a big lead on Houston................... Maybe Rompola looked at it as an insurmountable lead.

JMHO.

 

[CocoHusky]

Coco, I think she is looking at it more from a personal standpoint..My take is she has lost a few key recruits over the last few years. Maybe those recruits went the other way because the other school,( i.e., Texas ; Baylor) , promises to pay their athletes far more in stipend. And I suspect its hard to recruit against that in your own home State , especially when your home State is a current 'hot bed' with talented players. And if those plyers are looking at being in the FF , and possibly winning a NC , Texas and Baylor has a big lead on Houston.... Maybe Rompola looked at it as an insurmountable lead.

JMHO.

I hear you and agree with much of that. 35 years is a long time. Chastising kids about wanting to get a few more NCAA "allowable" dollars in their pockets is kind of ironic coming from a school like SMU-think death penalty and Larry Brown is men's coach. Men's team is banned from post season play this year.

 

[UcMiami]

I think there is a fundamental change that is only just happening in college sports - the change to the NCAA rules allowing conferences and teams within conferences to determine an additional benefit to be paid in cash to scholarship athletes. If you do not think that will change recruiting and player attitudes significantly, you have a big surprise coming your way. When University of Texas is offering its scholarship athletes $10,000 a year in addition to tuition, room, board and your college can only afford to offer them $2000, or in the case of a lot of D1 schools, probably $0 it will no longer have anything to do with the academics and coaching you are offering your recruit, but 'show me the money!'

And she is not alone is raising those concerns and the other concerns involved with the flood of cash in college sports and the corruption of the very reason universities were founded.

 

[johnnyc]

Coco, I think she is looking at it more from a personal standpoint..My take is she has lost a few key recruits over the last few years. Maybe those recruits went the other way because the other school,( i.e., Texas ; Baylor) , promises to pay their athletes far more in stipend. And I suspect its hard to recruit against that in your own home State , especially when your home State is a current 'hot bed' with talented players. And if those plyers are looking at being in the FF , and possibly winning a NC , Texas and Baylor has a big lead on Houston.... Maybe Rompola looked at it as an insurmountable lead.

JMHO.

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Like Geno asked....if they want to get paid like an employee can I fire them? Lol.

Seeing what Coach Warlick is experiencing right now I'm thinking she would agree with Coach Rompola and she is in a big time program.

And of course Geno has said many times it is getting harder to find the type of player he wants at UConn.

 

[toadfoot]

I think there is a fundamental change that is only just happening in college sports - the change to the NCAA rules allowing conferences and teams within conferences to determine an additional benefit to be paid in cash to scholarship athletes. If you do not think that will change recruiting and player attitudes significantly, you have a big surprise coming your way. When University of Texas is offering its scholarship athletes $10,000 a year in addition to tuition, room, board and your college can only afford to offer them $2000, or in the case of a lot of D1 schools, probably $0 it will no longer have anything to do with the academics and coaching you are offering your recruit, but 'show me the money!'

And she is not alone is raising those concerns and the other concerns involved with the flood of cash in college sports and the corruption of the very reason universities were founded.

Totally agree. I think paying athletes beyond their already existing scholarships is a horribly flawed idea. For starters, scholarship athletes are already paid in the form of scholarships worth as much as $200,000 or more. Do they work for it... absolutely. But most of these athletes are graduating with little or no debt. There's a strong possibility that as the years pass many future NCAA championships will be bought and paid for by these additional stipends. Stipends that not all universities will be able to offer. And how many universities in an effort to stay competitive will be forced to take money from general academic scholarship pools to fund these athlete stipends?

 

[UcMiami]

Totally agree. I think paying athletes beyond their already existing scholarships is a horribly flawed idea. For starters, scholarship athletes are already paid in the form of scholarships worth as much as $200,000 or more. Do they work for it... absolutely. But most of these athletes are graduating with little or no debt. There's a strong possibility that as the years pass many future NCAA championships will be bought and paid for by these additional stipends. Stipends that not all universities will be able to offer. And how many universities in an effort to stay competitive will be forced to take money from general academic scholarship pools to fund these athlete stipends?

Yes - I would much rather see all that stipend money go into a trust fund administered for the benefit of all former student athletes of the university for medical coverage, job training, and general welfare on a need basis. The ones that get a high paying profession career don't need it, but the ones that don't and didn't get much of an education or had their bodies broken sure could use some help.

 

[HGN]

An unnecessary parting shot by Coach Rompola IMO after 35 years. Take away the basketball or athletic aspect of this and the jest of her comment (kids today are more entitled) has been often repeated by every generation to describe the next. Is it true? Absolutely. But it is harmless & clearly collides with another adage of parents striving to provide more for their kids that their parents provided for them.

Coco, I think she is looking at it more from a personal standpoint............My take is she has lost a few key recruits over the last few years. Maybe those recruits went the other way because the other school,( i.e., Texas ; Baylor) , promises to pay their athletes far more in stipend. And I suspect its hard to recruit against that in your own home State , especially when your home State is a current 'hot bed' with talented players. And if those plyers are looking at being in the FF , and possibly winning a NC , Texas and Baylor has a big lead on Houston................... Maybe Rompola looked at it as an insurmountable lead.

JMHO.

I think there is a fundamental change that is only just happening in college sports - the change to the NCAA rules allowing conferences and teams within conferences to determine an additional benefit to be paid in cash to scholarship athletes. If you do not think that will change recruiting and player attitudes significantly, you have a big surprise coming your way. When University of Texas is offering its scholarship athletes $10,000 a year in addition to tuition, room, board and your college can only afford to offer them $2000, or in the case of a lot of D1 schools, probably $0 it will no longer have anything to do with the academics and coaching you are offering your recruit, but 'show me the money!'

And she is not alone is raising those concerns and the other concerns involved with the flood of cash in college sports and the corruption of the very reason universities were founded.

My point exactly.......

 

[Hoopz]

It's a 'Me First' generation. They are learning that they don't have to work hard to better themselves. If things don't go the way they want, their AAU coaches and overbearing parents simply shop them around to another program. An upper classman thinks they are entitled to playing time but gets beat out by freshmen in early workouts. Do they work harder to earn playing time? No, they transfer.

 

[Sonny44]

I think there is a fundamental change that is only just happening in college sports - the change to the NCAA rules allowing conferences and teams within conferences to determine an additional benefit to be paid in cash to scholarship athletes. If you do not think that will change recruiting and player attitudes significantly, you have a big surprise coming your way. When University of Texas is offering its scholarship athletes $10,000 a year in addition to tuition, room, board and your college can only afford to offer them $2000, or in the case of a lot of D1 schools, probably $0 it will no longer have anything to do with the academics and coaching you are offering your recruit, but 'show me the money!'

And she is not alone is raising those concerns and the other concerns involved with the flood of cash in college sports and the corruption of the very reason universities were founded.

Yes, the "fundamental change" being a metaphor for regression.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Eventually football has to spin off, and with that they will take their money with them. Who knows what becomes of every other sport when that happens.

 

[Kibitzer]

In generational terms, I have been listening to "olders" talk disparagingly about "youngers" for several decades. One rule remains constant:

"The older we get, the better we were." ​

 

[Bestiarius]

Golf too has it's frustrations.

 

[Ozimoto]

Unfortunately, if WCBB becomes as popular as we would all wish it to be, it will resemble men's college basketball in terms of "one and done" and even more transfer players in another ten to fifteen years.

 

[CocoHusky]

Unfortunately, if WCBB becomes as popular as we would all wish it to be, it will resemble men's college basketball in terms of "one and done" and even more transfer players in another ten to fifteen years.

Personally hope it never becomes that popular because I would no longer be a fan.

 

[arty155]

In generational terms, I have been listening to "olders" talk disparagingly about "youngers" for several decades. One rule remains constant:

"The older we get, the better we were." ​

-Amen, Sir.
-If you believe Plato (and who doesn't love Mickey's dog), it appears we at least had this under complete control for a while there. That is, until we allowed kids to get soft, transitioning from the Bronze Age to the Iron Age. Stupid iron...

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect for their elders... they contradict their parents... and tyrannize their teachers." Socrates (470-399 BC)

After the Lady Owls fell from the Athenian Polis (AP) Top 25, fans insist the AD enforce the standard boilerplate "Hemlock Clause" in Coach Socrates' contract.

 

[Sonny44]

Oh, but our kids today are so well informed.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/33D3NOl0-ag

 

[Kibitzer]

Oh, but our kids today are so well informed.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/33D3NOl0-ag

Exit interviews at the polls or comments by focus group members reveal how enlightened [NOT!] our adult population is.