Don't see either of these two in the same light as Fincher, Lansanah, Lutrus, Bama, Sio or Yawin. Maybe they end up in an NFL camp, but I don't see either being drafted or making a roster. Probably not fair to make those comparisons or assessments yet. Would certainly love to be proved wrong, because if they both have all-conference type of seasons the defense should be very good - not 2012 good, but very good.