#uptick

[whaler11]

As the NFL draft comes to an end just wanted to point out again how silly the #uptick concept was.

NFL.com didn't even have a UConn player listed as a prospect.

Diaco took over a roster that had two upperclassmen drafted - the team fell apart in 2014 when Jones got hurt, and he wasted Davis to a degree but they couldn't pass the ball anyway with that offensive line. I'm 99% sure that Edsall recruited Jones - not sure on Davis.

The roster isn't exactly brimming with 2017 draft prospects either - so credit to Bobby D for getting the team to a bowl in his second season.

It's easier to take a bad team to 6-6 than to take a 6-6 team to 9-3/10-2, but he's done a nice job to this point.

 

[SubbaBub]

He's on schedule, despite dragging the mother in law's dog behind the family truckster for a few miles.

We'll see if we make it to Walleyworld.

 

[huskymedic]

Diaco took over a roster that had two upperclassmen drafted - the team fell apart in 2014 when Jones got hurt, and he wasted Davis to a degree but they couldn't pass the ball anyway with that offensive line. I'm 99% sure that Edsall recruited Jones - not sure on Davis.

Geremy Davis was indeed a RE recruit.

 

[Adios]

We've been #upticking since Orlovsky anyway. Had a player drafted every year since 2005, except 2006 and 2016. That is definitely much different than what we were doing in the Yankee Conference, etc.

 

[whaler11]

He's on schedule, despite dragging the mother in law's dog behind the family truckster for a few miles.

We'll see if we make it to Walleyworld.

At some point you and Pal will finally realize he had no cards.

I know Pal could bluff Johnny Chan with 2-7 unsuited - but you are really bright. How can you not see there was nothing?

Not to defend some of the insane things Diaco did year 1 - but nobody was going to fix that mess overnight.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

At some point you and Pal will finally realize he had no cards.

I know Pal could bluff Johnny Chan with 2-7 unsuited - but you are really bright. How can you not see there was nothing?

Not to defend some of the insane things Diaco did year 1 - but nobody was going to fix that mess overnight.

You're giving Subba way too much credit.

 

[noeynox]

P was never going to win here, but you would have to blind to not see he landed some nice players. Jamar Summers, Foley Fatukasi, Luke Carrezola all P recruits. Julian Campenni I believe was P's first recruit. The recruiting really went in the tank in Edsall's last couple of years. Specially on the OL. Gifford was probably the best of the last OL recruits RE brought in.

 

[whaler11]

P was never going to win here, but you would have to blind to not see he landed some nice players. Jamar Summers, Foley Fatukasi, Luke Carrezola all P recruits. Julian Campenni I believe was P's first recruit. The recruiting really went in the tank in Edsall's last couple of years. Specially on the OL. Gifford was probably the best of the last OL recruits RE brought in.

If you and I had 85 scholarship to share we'd land some good players. Of course over multiple classes there are now some good players P recruited. That is a heck of a lot different than #uptick.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

If you and I had 85 scholarship to share we'd land some good players. Of course over multiple classes there are now some good players P recruited. That is a heck of a lot different than #uptick.

Especially with a team coming off a BCS appearance. There are few words to properly describe how piss-poor coach P was.

 

[noeynox]

If you and I had 85 scholarship to share we'd land some good players. Of course over multiple classes there are now some good players P recruited. That is a heck of a lot different than #uptick.

Practically every major contributor to last year's bowl team was recruited by P with the exception of Shireffs and a few of the wrs. There wasn't an uptick but if this team wins 9 games this year, maybe the drop off in talent wasn't as great.

I like what Diaco is doing, Casey's injury I think sealed the deal, and that first year was used as entire developmental year. Even if he didn't treat it that way, with the youth and inexperience at best they win one or two more games.

Where this program slid way backwards was OL talent development. Guys like Rugg and Nwokeji never sniffed the field. Hate to point those 2 guys out in particular but they are the names that stick out. No OL from the end of the Edsall era was close to a major contributor. I'm sure it had a lot to do with Deleone.

 

[whaler11]

Practically every major contributor to last year's bowl team was recruited by P with the exception of Shireffs and a few of the wrs. There wasn't an uptick but if this team wins 9 games this year, maybe the drop off in talent wasn't as great.

I like what Diaco is doing, Casey's injury I think sealed the deal, and that first year was used as entire developmental year. Even if he didn't treat it that way, with the youth and inexperience at best they win one or two more games.

Where this program slid way backwards was OL talent development. Guys like Rugg and Nwokeji never sniffed the field. Hate to point those 2 guys out in particular but they are the names that stick out. No OL from the end of the Edsall era was close to a major contributor. I'm sure it had a lot to do with Deleone.

Edsall's OL recruting may have fallen off - I guess we don't know because of GDL.

Taking Sherrifs out of the equation is a pretty big deal... can't fault P for landing Boyle but without Bryant I can't even contemplate how bad that last season would have been.

Maybe I'm wrong about HCPP's recruiting - if they win 9 games this year I'm happy to revisit.

 

[Bonehead]

Reminiscing and it feels so good - remember this classic??

Time for mandatory drug tests on board


To prevent Pasqualoni from being hired away, is it time to renegotiate and reward him with a raise?

 

[CTMike]

The reason P's recruits were contributors last year is because they were older - they should have been better than a Diaco recruit.

I believed in the #uptick because I wanted to believe in it. I was wrong.

 

[SubbaBub]

At some point you and Pal will finally realize he had no cards.

I know Pal could bluff Johnny Chan with 2-7 unsuited - but you are really bright. How can you not see there was nothing?

Not to defend some of the insane things Diaco did year 1 - but nobody was going to fix that mess overnight.

What part of on schedule is so hard to understand? Talent was down and he did some stupid unnecessary things, but it's his party and long as the ball drops at midnight we're good.

The problem with the talent argument as a sole reason for two losing seasons in a row is that it assumes there is some significant spread in talent between the bottom 50 teams in FBS which comprised the bulk of the schedule. There isn't, at that end of the pool it is about preparation and technique. It's clear PP didn't care if the guys hit the gym, the film room, or put in extra work. It's also clear that he didn't look to hard to find the types of players that could win here. In short, PP was about the 2 hours of practice everyday and that's it. I'm guessing GDL was worse. Were the guys out of shape in year 1 AD? Probably, but BD blew games in year 2 as well. His off-season foundation won 4 games and a flew lucky bounces won the other 2. Right on schedule, but that won't cut it this season. We have the same weak schedule, but this season it has a more emotional component. Any trip ups to Cuse or BC will carry additional scorn.

 

[kcc1442]

As the NFL draft comes to an end just wanted to point out again how silly the #uptick concept was.

NFL.com didn't even have a UConn player listed as a prospect.

Diaco took over a roster that had two upperclassmen drafted - the team fell apart in 2014 when Jones got hurt, and he wasted Davis to a degree but they couldn't pass the ball anyway with that offensive line. I'm 99% sure that Edsall recruited Jones - not sure on Davis.

The roster isn't exactly brimming with 2017 draft prospects either - so credit to Bobby D for getting the team to a bowl in his second season.

It's easier to take a bad team to 6-6 than to take a 6-6 team to 9-3/10-2, but he's done a nice job to this point.

I agree with most of this. But I think we could definitely get 4 next year. I think 2 at the fewest and upwards of 6 draft picks if they have great senior years. So I don't agree with 2017 not exactly brimming with talent. I think Noel and Obi for sure, Knappe, J. Williams have a good chance, and Myers (if they can overlook his size), Walsh, Levy all have outside chances if they make improvements. Plus Summers is a likely candidate to jump early if he wants to. I'm sure he would be already a 3rd to 4th round pick at least.

 

[Nostical]

I think we could definitely get 4 next year. I think 2 at the fewest and upwards of 6 draft picks if they have great senior years.

One thing is clear about the draft. With all of the technology available today, the GM's and gurus will have the chance to review--every play---by any player they might contemplate drafting. That means no taking off a play, never letting up in pursuit, giving your all--every time. If that's our collective mindset I can see several,(up to seven) of our players drafted next year.
I think it's mind boggling that teams like Tennessee had no player drafted. Texas had only 1--as did Syracuse (their punter) and Rutgers. BC had 2. We've got lots of talent ready to explode on the field this fall. That means lots of NFL draftees next spring I can't wait.

 

[Palatine]

At some point you and Pal will finally realize he had no cards.

I know Pal could bluff Johnny Chan with 2-7 unsuited - but you are really bright. How can you not see there was nothing?

Not to defend some of the insane things Diaco did year 1 - but nobody was going to fix that mess overnight.

Keeping the cards on the sideline on third down isn't the same as having no cards.

 

[whaler11]

One thing is clear about the draft. With all of the technology available today, the GM's and gurus will have the chance to review--every play---by any player they might contemplate drafting. That means no taking off a play, never letting up in pursuit, giving your all--every time. If that's our collective mindset I can see several,(up to seven) of our players drafted next year.
I think it's mind boggling that teams like Tennessee had no player drafted. Texas had only 1--as did Syracuse (their punter) and Rutgers. BC had 2. We've got lots of talent ready to explode on the field this fall. That means lots of NFL draftees next spring I can't wait.

Half the guys he mentioned aren't even average FBS players. Can we get there before we put guys like Levy in the draft?

 

[UConnJim]

End of the day, UConn football is about finding good athletic guys, keeping them in school, and developing them. Thus, UConn needs coaches that can motivate and develop good athletes to become good football players.

I think where PP/GDL failed was in finding athletes that fit at UConn (too much turnover and too many players even failed to make it UConn) and developing them. I think Diaco has figured it out and you have to like the fact that there has been few players that have left the program for other than playing time issues. I think the athletes that PP/GDL recruited that are still at UConn have been kept in school and developed by Diaco into football players.

 

[noeynox]

Edsall's OL recruting may have fallen off - I guess we don't know because of GDL.

Taking Sherrifs out of the equation is a pretty big deal... can't fault P for landing Boyle but without Bryant I can't even contemplate how bad that last season would have been.

Maybe I'm wrong about HCPP's recruiting - if they win 9 games this year I'm happy to revisit.

I'm not taking Shirreffs out of it as much as I am crediting Diaco for landing him. Recruiting QBS here who are average fbs QBS has been harder than at almost any other school it seems. P landed a good one in Cochran, one who busted in Boyle, and one talented enough to earn multiple fbs offers his second go round in Lagow. He wasn't here very long.

His problem wasn't recruiting as it was what somewhat else mentioned. He didn't caretake every part of the program like Edsall did and Diaco seems to be doing. P wanted to run this like a pro team. Hands off except at practice and in games. He flopped immensely, and there may have been no #uptick, but the overall level of athletes were not materially worse.

I will say this, Edsall and his staff excelled at finding DBS and lbs. It's amazing how many guys we put in the pros at those spots.

 

[Jax Husky]

P5 schools that had no players drafted:

The list is:

Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Tennessee
Duke
North Carolina

Iowa had 1 7th round pick and was almost undefeated last season.

 

[cryjeremiah]

My god, I love this topic.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Idk, I typically just look at the stars coming out of high school.

 

[LIUCHusky]

Half the guys he mentioned aren't even average FBS players. Can we get there before we put guys like Levy in the draft?

At the signing day event at The Rent this past February, Diaco was asked about underclassmen who he thought could be drafted. I believe Levy was the 2nd player mentioned by him.

 

[whaler11]

At the signing day event at The Rent this past February, Diaco was asked about underclassmen who he thought could be drafted. I believe Levy was the 2nd player mentioned by him.

You mean the Diaco that moved him from tackle to guard?

Sure there is a disconnect between college production and the draft - but come on... when you can't handle tackle in the AAC and have to be moved to guard?