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We lose to Towson. In 3 weeks, we've got a high probability of home losses to two B1G programs. By numerous scores.

I'm going to return to a theme I've struck before. It's over for PP. I don't think he even has much of an NFL possibility. He should be OUR equivalent of Dee Rowe. Honored home state icon. Gets to play the ambassador role in this great state. George DeLeone too. We can run clinics & teach til they're ready for their home at the shore. Go High School to High School promoting playing big tough football.

There's only one stopgap that makes sense. A guy who's been a HC. A difference maker. He can come in here immediately & change the tone. IF ... Big IF ... Warde & others believe he can change the tone of this offense. We can get started today for change & be far better in 2014.

I see this as far higher probability of success than hiring the latest Arkansas State coach or paying blackmail to that miscreant Chuck Nevius.

Brown delivers again. Let him know that, unlike 2011, he doesn't have to keep anyone. Give him the keys & get going. As we've read, he was a big plus at BC already. Maybe he'd run an offense that looks a little dangerous & one where we were stocked with playmakers.

Do it now. Don't let the Louisville, Cincinnati & UCF blowouts be our story. Make our theme a new beginning.
 
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We lose to Towson. In 3 weeks, we've got a high probability of home losses to two B1G programs. By numerous scores.

I'm going to return to a theme I've struck before. It's over for PP. I don't think he even has much of an NFL possibility. He should be OUR equivalent of Dee Rowe. Honored home state icon. Gets to play the ambassador role in this great state. George DeLeone too. We can run clinics & teach til they're ready for their home at the shore. Go High School to High School promoting playing big tough football.

There's only one stopgap that makes sense. A guy who's been a HC. A difference maker. He can come in here immediately & change the tone. IF ... Big IF ... Warde & others believe he can change the tone of this offense. We can get started today for change & be far better in 2014.

I see this as far higher probability of success than hiring the latest Arkansas State coach or paying blackmail to that miscreant Chuck Nevius.

Brown delivers again. Let him know that, unlike 2011, he doesn't have to keep anyone. Give him the keys & get going. As we've read, he was a big plus at BC already. Maybe he'd run an offense that looks a little dangerous & one where we were stocked with playmakers.

Do it now. Don't let the Louisville, Cincinnati & UCF blowouts be our story. Make our theme a new beginning.

Great post. Bring Don Brown back and clean house. Keep Weiss and get rid of the rest. I would even take Moorehead or Ambrose at this point. PP got to go now!

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Disagree. If Brown was still here, I would appoint him interim HC, but I think his ship has sailed. He is 58 and will be 59 before the 2014 season. Sure, he has energy, but he would only be a head coach for 4 or 5 years.

UConn needs to go young with an up and coming coach. And, we need better ties to Florida. Short term, I would fire PP and GDL and appoint Weist interim coach for the rest of the season and see what happens. It can't be any worse.
 

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UConn can not hire another old man.

They just can't.
 

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After reading the misery index thread I'm holding out for Richt. He'll likely get canned at the end of this season because his team lost to a legitimate top five talent level team because of a botched snap on a short FG attempt.
 
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I am not a Brown fan. He had a lot of talent last year, and the offense left that defense out to dry, but that level of aggression cannot be coupled with enough discipline. I watched the BC game and saw a D that made numerous stops in the backfield, but then they'd get gashed for big gainers. Feast and famine. Works great when you have pro level talent out there, but most of the time you're going to see someone miss their assignment and big gainers.
 

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Define "old man" - 45, 55, 65, 75?

I would prefer someone on the right side of 40. But to answer your question - if you can sign up for AARP - 'old man'.
 
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I would prefer someone on the right side of 40. But to answer your question - if you can sign up for AARP - 'old man'.

So anyone older than 49 1/2 is out in your mind - Surely limits the pool of candidates.
 
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I am not a Brown fan. He had a lot of talent last year, and the offense left that defense out to dry, but that level of aggression cannot be coupled with enough discipline. I watched the BC game and saw a D that made numerous stops in the backfield, but then they'd get gashed for big gainers. Feast and famine. Works great when you have pro level talent out there, but most of the time you're going to see someone miss their assignment and big gainers.

BC doesn't have pro level talent. They were the worst D in the country in terms of tackles for loss and sacks last year and they didn't create any turnovers. Yesterday, BC beat a tough 'Nova team. They created 4 turnovers and have 4 sacks. The D only had 6 all of last year, with the same players! And before you say anything bad about 'Nova, remember....they are better than Towson!
 

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So anyone older than 49 1/2 is out in your mind - Surely limits the pool of candidates.

Is it 50? I thought it was 55.

Coaching college football is a young man's game. But yes, if I'm hiring I'm probably not looking at anyone past 50.

Look who gets hired: Kingsbury is 33. Fuente is 36. Taggert is 36. Rhule is 38. Pat Fitzgerald is 38. Dan Mullen is 40. Franklin is 41.
 

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I agree on a younger coach too but the problem we're gonna have is being able to successfully replace that coach every 3-4 years if we have success. (No one is sticking around here, especially if we don't leave the AAC anytime soon.) Cincy has done it so it's possible. However, it's not common. In the end, I agree that we need new and fresh, not old and retread.
 
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Is it 50? I thought it was 55.

Coaching college football is a young man's game. But yes, if I'm hiring I'm probably not looking at anyone past 50.

Look who gets hired: Kingsbury is 33. Fuente is 36. Taggert is 36. Rhule is 38. Pat Fitzgerald is 38. Dan Mullen is 40. Franklin is 41.

So you would whack off Charlie Strong, Bobby Petrino, Les Miles, Saban, Brady Hoke, etc,..

How about somebody that just doesn't act their age?
 

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So you would whack off Charlie Strong, Bobby Petrino, Les Miles, Saban, Brady Hoke, etc,..

How about somebody that just doesn't act their age?

LOL yeah I wouldn't target guys that wouldn't take the job. Of course there are established guys over that age. Do you think you are bringing in an established winner?

Do you have a legitimate candidate over 50?

And to your direct question I would not whack those guys off.
 
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So you would whack off Charlie Strong, Bobby Petrino, Les Miles, Saban, Brady Hoke, etc,..

How about somebody that just doesn't act their age?

Obviously, if UConn could hire a top level coach that was over 50 like Nick Saban or Charlie Strong, you do it in a minute. But, that is not happening, so the better strategy is to hire a younger up and coming coach with upside vs hiring an older mediocre coach.

Look at BC. They have had success when they hired up and comers like Tom O'Brien and Tom Coughlin and failed miserably when they have hired the old retreads like Dan Henning and Spaziani.

And, I don't buy the Addazio hire at BC. Yes, he is an improvement vs Spaziani, but he will prove to be a mediocre coach as he was at Temple and as an OC. He has a lot of bluster, but let's judge the results.
 

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Don Brown knew the ship was sinking, so he found a new ship. Fair enough. But I don't think he is the guy you hire when you clean house, he is the guy you might promote from within if things are going well and the HC lands an NFL job. That's not the case here, and though I did like the aggressive style on paper, it's true the defense had issues under Brown. If he thought he had a shot at the UConn HC job he should have stuck it out here and made his unit outstanding rather than taking another assistant job. He also turned down the Yale HC offer, though that's a completely different type of job.

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One other thought on Don Brown. Last year, with 4 NFL draft choices on defense, UCONN had one of the worst number of takeaways in the NCAA and one of the worst red zone defenses. And, don't forget the big plays the defense gave up (as well as the end of the game drive Temple had to beat UCONN).

Let BC keep him.
 
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LOL yeah I wouldn't target guys that wouldn't take the job. Of course there are established guys over that age. Do you think you are bringing in an established winner?

Do you have a legitimate candidate over 50?

And to your direct question I would not whack those guys off.

My only point was let's not draw an artificial age line in the sand...

We've already shaved 6 years off your initial "no old guys" premise. It just has to be someone that fits, has the coaching chops and can energize a lethargic fan base. Whether it's a current head coach or an able OC/DC/Position Coach doesn't concern me. It's about personality.
 
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Great post. Bring Don Brown back and clean house. Keep Weiss and get rid of the rest. I would even take Moorehead or Ambrose at this point. PP got to go now!

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What is the budget for a new coach? With reduced revenue from football and paying PP what is the University willing to pay for a new coach?
 

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Obviously, if UConn could hire a top level coach that was over 50 like Nick Saban or Charlie Strong, you do it in a minute. But, that is not happening, so the better strategy is to hire a younger up and coming coach with upside vs hiring an older mediocre coach.

Look at BC. They have had success when they hired up and comers like Tom O'Brien and Tom Coughlin and failed miserably when they have hired the old retreads like Dan Henning and Spaziani.

And, I don't buy the Addazio hire at BC. Yes, he is an improvement vs Spaziani, but he will prove to be a mediocre coach as he was at Temple and as an OC. He has a lot of bluster, but let's judge the results.

Whether you buy Addazio or not, does he qualify as an up and comer or old retread?
 
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Don Brown is not too old, that suggestion is asinine. Don Brown has charisma and knows how to motivate his players, he gets them to play with confidence and passion and he knows how to scheme a pass rush. It was quite obvious on Thursday that we miss him dearly. I watched the entire BC game yesterday and watching their aggressive, passionate defense made me depressed. It looked so familiar. :(

BTW BC's offense was awful, God awful, they won yesterday because of Don Brown, and we probably would have beat Towson with Don Brown.:(:(

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BC doesn't have pro level talent. They were the worst D in the country in terms of tackles for loss and sacks last year and they didn't create any turnovers. Yesterday, BC beat a tough 'Nova team. They created 4 turnovers and have 4 sacks. The D only had 6 all of last year, with the same players! And before you say anything bad about 'Nova, remember....they are better than Towson!

That may be. I got a look at Brown at Maryland and at UConn. The defense last year is hard to judge because the O was left high and dry. But with all the NFL talent on D, they stoned teams but then let down at the worst possible moment. Edsall was way too much bend-but-don't-break for me. Brown was gambling too much.
 
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If only we had Don Brown and not that useless Hank Hughes. We had a chance to get rid of him but we didn't and now we're stuck with him. It was painful watching his boring and ineffective defense.
 
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I wouldn't mind brown, though I wonder if they could lure a josh McDaniel. I doubt he is getting another shot at an,NFL job anytime soon. That,type of hire may be a but ambitious I know.
 
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