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Message: [QUOTE="caw, post: 4550911, member: 563"] Q Nope, I didn't forget "bid thieves" thus why I included the last four to have byes. The only thing shown by the sixteen released is that they value that for seeding, but they obviously also value whatever ISU had before considering they were in the 16. The difference in WVU moving to Q2 is negligible as a loss. It remains a game which can not become a bad loss. Great, your opinion based on what? What metric do you think they have that is better. Not Q1/Q2 wins. And in regards to the ones you highlighted, aside from Nevada let me quote someone here: More importantly bad losses matter, those being Q3/Q4 losses. Overall record, that seems flawed and counters everything the NCAA committee has said they look at. Q1 road wins? Sure, let's do that: ISU 2-8 Q1A Pitt 3-2 Q1A Nevada 1-4 Q1A Memphis 0-3 Q1A Wisconsin 4-4 Q1A USC 3-4 Q1A Utah St 0-3 Q1A So of the six teams you highlighted, only three have more Q1A wins than ISU, and again all three have bad losses. Pitt may have the best argument of the six at 3-2. Not exactly running away with it here are they. Wisconsin at 4-4, but again 2 bad bad losses to ISU's zero and ISU isn't the team making up distance. Yes, it is Lunardi, but it doesn't really matter how good he is or isn't at bracketology. Unless you are arguing those 16 teams are not around the bubble? Are you arguing that? Be clear here then, give your bubble. Maybe all 16 are in or maybe there are eight other teams in instead of the eight he has out right now. Maybe there are eight in instead that he has 9-16 on the outside looking in. Doesn't really matter. That is very realistic sample of teams on/around the bubble. If you disagree with that statement give your sample. Give you numbers. I'm done arguing with someone who doesn't bring anything to the argument but "dude my opinion is different". Want to continue. Give your bubble teams, give your reasoning, give your data. [/QUOTE]

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